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Ben Rothwell has weight and a bandanna!
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redmeanie77 wrote:I had Rothwell to win this fight, but after i saw the Crocop fight, i am more confident that Rothwell can beat Crocop. Crocop did not get any better, he could have done the same performance when he was getting beat by the likes of Kongo etc.
You can make excuses that he was sandbagging last night, but i just dont he has gotten his head sorted, i reckon Rothwell would over-whelm him in the 2nd and 3rd round and Crocop would just shy away as before.
But we shall see, im glad Dana still wantsthe fight with Rothwell to go ahead. I think the winner of the any of those 4 kickboxer s fight is a step above Crocop to be honest. Crocop should fight someone coming off a loss.
ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:Just finished watching the event.
From the top, wow what a performance from Velasquez. Really excellent, dissapointed for Nog but Velasquez looked incredible, he showed excellent standup. He is right up there with Fedor, Lesnar and Mir right now, sensational. He probably will fight the JDS/Gonzaga winner now which I don't like. I think JDS has the better hands but Velasquez would dominate that fight with his wrestling. Really impressed with Cain, regretting doubting him now.
Have to say I wasn't impressed with Wandy yesterday. He didn't look good, Belcher or Coté would have beat him comfortably yesterday, nevermind Sonnen or Belfort. If Bisping can take Wandy down, imagine what Sonnen would do. Bisping could have done a lot more to win that fight but he is just an average fighter, dissapointing really. Wandy will have to improve massivley if he wants to contend for the title, because right now Silva vs Silva would be a massacare. Bisping's punches have no power behind them at all, its embarassing and if it was someone like Coté behind those punches he would KOed Wandy. Still first fight at MW, so the only way is up.
George has a fantastic ground game, just wow. His control was fantastic, only Aoki, Shaolin and BJ have better ground games at LW, don't know about Ben Stiller. I think George would lose to Maynard and BJ would decimate him but he is a legit contender now, good to see another guy learning to fight of his back. Jon Fitch recently said that fighting off your back was dead in MMA unless you were Maia or Aoki so good to see another guy using it.
BTW, if George is that good, how incredible is Marcelo Garcia?
I've rated Ryan Bader since he KOed Tom Lawler, he looked good yesterday. Jardine is a tough opponent and he beat Griffin not long after he won TUF. Bader passed the test. The thing is all the power is there for Bader, he has freakish power but the accuracy isn't there. He needs to sharpen that up and he can be a really dangerous fighter. Not sure who is next for him, possibly Hammil, possibly the winner of Bones vs Vera or maybe even T Silva. Not sure whats next for Jardine, It would be harsh to cut him looking at his last couple of opponents, he can be kept as a gatekeeper. If he does get cut then Id like to see him in Strikeforce or even Shine fights.
Cro Cop dominated poor Perosh, he beat the shit out of him. I think he wanted to have fun out there rather than go out and finish the fight in 30 seconds. His sprawl was as ever terrfic, Tosswell is next.
YEEE Lythle, I love that guy. I think he is such an underated fighter, amazing to think he has 15 decision losses. A lucky punch here and there and he could have made something more out of his career but as always he was exciting. That fight was really exciting up to that point but a very nice knee bar applied. Fucked Foster up to be fair.
Lythle vs Rumble would be a war.
Dissapointed in Reljic but happy for Dollaway, I think has some potentiol but he needs to work on defeding submissions and on his standup. Good win over a tough guy, CB vs the winner of Belcher/Coté sounds like a good fight. Its been said before but I'll say it again, Arizona State University must have had some wrestling team with Velasquez, Bader and Dollaway in there side.
Good event overall that has created and recreated stars.
hendos_right_hook wrote:Yes, Nog looked slow and old, I thought he would. And your right, a decision win against Couture now is not enough to propel you to contention with the best.
The middleweight contest between Michael “The Count” Bisping and Wanderlei” The Axe Murderer” Silva may not have been as straight forward as many first thought after it appears the Brit outscored the Brazilian in the second round of their fight.
Whilst you can clearly give round one to Bisping and round three to Silva, the whole fight hinges on what turned out to be a very interesting second round between the pair. The two big moments in the round went to Silva (sweeping the leg from under the Brit and locking up the guillotine) but apart from that it was all Bisping, scoring with two well timed takedowns and a number of crisp punches which left Silva’s face a mess by the end of the round.
If you take the partisan Silva crowd out of the equation as well as the incessant cheerleading of UFC colour commentator, Joe Rogan by muting your volume you will see that apart from these two brief moments it is Bisping that gets the better of nearly every exchange, landing punches and knees to great effect as he circles away. On top of that you will notice every time Silva stuffs a takedown from the Brit, it is Bisping that lands a series of telling blows on the exit, something that was seemingly missed by the hapless judges on the night.
Once again the UFC hype machine seems to have swayed not only the judges but the fans in attendance and watching around the world into believing “The Axe Murderer” is back in business. You only have to watch the Countdown to UFC 110 show to see how much time was devoted to Silva and in turn to the Brit.
redmeanie77 wrote:An article on MMAbay which blasts the judges decision to give rd 2 to Wandi.
The middleweight contest between Michael “The Count” Bisping and Wanderlei” The Axe Murderer” Silva may not have been as straight forward as many first thought after it appears the Brit outscored the Brazilian in the second round of their fight.
Whilst you can clearly give round one to Bisping and round three to Silva, the whole fight hinges on what turned out to be a very interesting second round between the pair. The two big moments in the round went to Silva (sweeping the leg from under the Brit and locking up the guillotine) but apart from that it was all Bisping, scoring with two well timed takedowns and a number of crisp punches which left Silva’s face a mess by the end of the round.
If you take the partisan Silva crowd out of the equation as well as the incessant cheerleading of UFC colour commentator, Joe Rogan by muting your volume you will see that apart from these two brief moments it is Bisping that gets the better of nearly every exchange, landing punches and knees to great effect as he circles away. On top of that you will notice every time Silva stuffs a takedown from the Brit, it is Bisping that lands a series of telling blows on the exit, something that was seemingly missed by the hapless judges on the night.
Once again the UFC hype machine seems to have swayed not only the judges but the fans in attendance and watching around the world into believing “The Axe Murderer” is back in business. You only have to watch the Countdown to UFC 110 show to see how much time was devoted to Silva and in turn to the Brit.
After watching the fight again, i think Wandi is lucky to come away from that fight with a W. The judges could easily have given rd 2 to Bisping. If it wasnt for that 30 second flurry at end of rd 2 and 3 then Wandi would have lost.
However i think the choke Wandi had on just gives him the 2nd round as he was closer to win the fight, but we know UFC judges dont always view it like that. Pride judging concentrated more on effort to finish the fight.
Poor performance by Wandi.
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