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    Post  Sheldan Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:44 pm

    Alistair Overeem (36-11 MMA, 1-0 UFC) is unlikely to fight champion Junior Dos Santos (14-1 MMA, 8-0 UFC) for the UFC heavyweight title this summer at UFC 146.

    Nevada State Athletic Commission Executive Director Keith Kizer today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) the No. 1 heavyweight contender failed a pre-fight drug test conducted this past Tuesday following a press conference for UFC 146.

    Overeem's "A" sample was flagged for an elevated T/E ratio of more than 10-to-1. Kizer said the heavyweight has the right to request the test's "B" sample, which, if negative, would make him eligible to receive a fight license.

    The former Strikeforce champion was among six top-billed fighters who were tested for the all-heavyweight pay-per-view event, which takes place May 26 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. All were tested for diuretics, masking agents, anabolic steroids and T/E ratios in addition to drugs of abuse.

    Dos Santos, Frank Mir, Cain Velasquez, Roy Nelson and Antonio Silva all passed their tests.

    It's not the first time Overeem has run afoul of the NSAC. He was granted a conditional license to fight Brock Lesnar at UFC 141 after missing a pre-fight drug test ordered by the commission, which reinstated out-of-competition testing this past July.

    Answering to the commission via telephone during an NSAC hearing held three weeks prior to UFC 141, Overeem said he missed the test because he had flown back to his native Holland to care for his ailing mother and wasn't made aware of the obligation. When he got word, he submitted an invalid blood test conducted by his personal doctor and then submitted urine that wasn't tested.

    The NSAC gave him a license on the condition that he submit to a drug test conducted by an accredited laboratory, which he did two days later (and subsequently passed), as well as pass a drug test upon arriving in the U.S. for the Lesnar fight and submit to two random tests.

    This past Tuesday's test served as one of those random tests, which also followed a fight-night test at UFC 141.

    Because Overeem's conditional license expired on Dec. 31, the NSAC will not receive a disciplinary complaint against him as it does for licensed athletes. Instead, he will need to appear before the commission should he choose to apply for a license, which notably, hadn't been filed for UFC 146.

    With one half of May 26's event on the shelf, the UFC may give one of the main-card heavyweights an impromptu title shot.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Wed Apr 04, 2012 10:52 pm

    Cant say im surprised in the slightest. I wish they would do more random drug testing, even if it means losing great fights like this for fuck sake Evil or Very Mad ...

    What are the options now? Cain rematch? Mir title shot?
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    Post  Sheldan Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:07 pm

    I would give Mir the title shot and pull Werdum from his fight against Russow at UFC 147 and make Cain VS Werdum the new number 1 contender bout at UFC 146. Does that random drugs testing that took place count as the random sample that Overeem had to submit within 6 months following his Lesnar fight? Or had he already submitted another test following that fight?
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    Post  redmeanie77 Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:11 am














    Bring back Brock !!!
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:26 am

    I really don't want to see Mir get an undeserved title shot but he does seem to be the only option. Unless Kimbo is available of course.......
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    Post  redmeanie77 Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:33 am














    JDS-Mir
    Cain-Gonzaga
    Nelson-Bigfoot
    Hunt-Struve
    Barboza-Dunham


    Del Rosario fights some low ranked fighter on prelims which would not be such a bad idea coming off a bad injury and very long layoff.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:19 am

    I agree with Sheldan. If I was to choose it would be the following...

    JDS vs Mir
    Cain vs Werdum
    Nelson vs Bigfoot
    Del Rosario vs Gonzaga
    Struve vs Hunt

    If they failed in Werdum then I would do the following..

    JDS vs Mir
    Cain vs Hunt
    Nelson vs Bigfoot
    Del Rosario vs Gonzaga
    Struve vs Miocic

    Believe it or not but Mark Hunt is one of the only few HW's on a tear at the moment other than Werdum and JDS of course. Very Happy I think he deserves a co main event spot more than Nelson, Bigfoot or Gonzaga.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:53 am


    Dana White responds to Overeems failed drugs test:

    "The worst part is that he sat in front of us and lied to us (referring to a meeting in the UFC's offices meeting with White and CEO Lorenzo Fertitta, where Overeem insisted he was clean and would pass all drug tests). How (expletive) stupid do you have to be? Seriously dumb. Anybody who's using (performance-enhancing drugs) right now is an absolute (expletive) moron..

    "It's beyond - what's the word I'm looking for - it's beyond belief. It's beyond comprehension. You're an absolute moron, a brain-dead absolute (expletive) dummy. It goes beyond a guy have any common sense whatsoever."

    White told the journalists on the call that it was too soon to announce any changes to the card.

    "I don't have a plan B" he said.

    When asked about Overeem's future with the organization he said, "It doesn't look good, does it? IIt doesn't look good."
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    Post  Sheldan Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:17 am

    I hope his claim that there was no plan B was just heat of the moment, when operating with fighters like Overeem, there should always be a plan B, especially after the Lesnar fight nearly didn't go ahead.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:42 am

    Sheldan wrote:I hope his claim that there was no plan B was just heat of the moment, when operating with fighters like Overeem, there should always be a plan B, especially after the Lesnar fight nearly didn't go ahead.

    Yeah good point. Im 100% sure they will have had a plan B, even a plan C. Dana is bound to have seen this as a possibility, like is anyone really surprised at this? As Kenny Florian tweeted "1,2,3, everyone act surprised that Overeem tested positive." Smile

    Lets face it, it wouldnt be the first time Dana has said something in the heat of the moment.
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:18 am

    littlereem 6-7 record, $12k per fight

    + steroids =

    ubereem 10-0 record, $millions per fight

    he aint stupid IMO
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    Post  rudeboyben84 Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:11 pm

    Cain cant get a rematch, he doesnt diserve one after getting flattened in the last figth and not doig anything since. Though he is the highest ranked fighter I doubt he will get the shot.

    I think Werdum and Mir are neck and neck, I rate Werdum slightly higher but Mir did snap Nogs arm so the fight with JDS would have more interest as well as the fact Werdum has also got squashed by Junior before.

    So In my head Mir is the most likely.

    There is one other options though. There is a certain Man who is currently waiting for a title shot, a man who KO'd Fedor and went 1-1 with Big Nog... What you all think? Any Chance Dan would take the fight or do you think Dana wouldnt allow it as he wouldnt want to fight at Heavy full time? Id love to see it myself, I think it would be a great fight.
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    Post  kavik2 Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:29 pm

    Agree on Hendo that would be a great fight, JDS couldnt finish Nelson and Hendo has much more firepower to throw back.

    Its a shame the strike force HW GP wasnt all done quicker and then Barnett or Cormier would be an option.

    I still think Cain can be the champion again, but agreed he needs a fight or two first before getting another shot.

    I dont really want to see Mir getting another shot
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    Post  rudeboyben84 Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:35 pm

    The worst thing about the SF GP is that even when someone comes out the winner, the winner will have to fight one more time for SF! The looser might go straight to UFC... seems an odd situation.

    Id say 90% sure it will be Mir getting the shot. I just hope Werdum gets promoted to the Main card, Werdum vs Cain is a great fight it it happens.
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    Post  Mryzyz Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:50 pm

    I thought REEM would have been smart enough not to get caught.

    Has the testing became more stringent recently?
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    Post  efils_god Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:38 pm

    Nah JDS v Mir and if you get Fedor give him Cain.

    Hendo is a crazy idea but i kind of like it! Very unlikely to happen though.

    JDS-Mir and Cain Werdum makes most sense and is least disruptive to other fights etc. Only Werdum-Russow gets scrapped, and i'm sure they can find an OK replacement to face Russow in June.
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    Reached for comment following news that UFC 146 headliner Alistair Overeem had registered elevated levels of testosterone on a pre-fight drug test – and that his title-fight slot might be up for grabs – Frank Mir had two words.

    "Oh, cool," he told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

    Obviously, it was news to him, but the ex-champ quickly thew his hat into the ring.

    "I'm excited that maybe now I can get a title shot," Mir said.





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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:36 pm

    redmeanie77 wrote:









    Reached for comment following news that UFC 146 headliner Alistair Overeem had registered elevated levels of testosterone on a pre-fight drug test – and that his title-fight slot might be up for grabs – Frank Mir had two words.

    "Oh, cool," he told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

    Obviously, it was news to him, but the ex-champ quickly thew his hat into the ring.

    "I'm excited that maybe now I can get a title shot," Mir said.





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    Sorry to be a party pooper but.... Theres no way he beats JDS though Very Happy lol
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:37 pm

    only one real solution to this main event problem IMO

    Spoiler:
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:42 pm

    manschesthair_utd wrote:only one real solution to this main event problem IMO

    Spoiler:

    lol! He deserves it as much as he rest of them Very Happy
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    Post  Sheldan Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:34 pm

    Nevada allows T/E levels of 6:1. Overeem's T/E levels were 14:1..... affraid
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    Post  payneNglory1 Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:40 am

    Mir should get the title shot

    and

    Spoiler:

    should take Mir's place
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:45 am

    payneNglory1 wrote:Mir should get the title shot

    and

    Spoiler:

    should take Mir's place

    Did anyone read about his "big announcement" coming up on the 14th April or something? Smile
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:46 am

    Sheldan wrote:Nevada allows T/E levels of 6:1. Overeem's T/E levels were 14:1..... affraid

    That is bad but compared to Chael Sonnen at 16:1...

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