Most underrated and most overrated fighters in the UFC?

manschesthair_utd wrote:underrated:

Shinya Aoki
Rousimare Palhares
Rafael Dos Anjos
Vitor Belfort
Lyoto Machida
Thiago Alves
Fedor Emelianenko


Overrated:
Carlos Condit
Junior Dos Santos
Frankie Edgar
Gray Maynard
Jim Miller
Dan Henderson
Anderson Silva

- not that the above don't deserve their current ranking, but i think they arent as good fighters as they are currently believed to be, or hyped to be.

manschesthair_utd wrote:

redmeanie77 wrote:
How is Fedor Underated? It was damn near blasphemy to say anything negative in MMA forums just a short while ago, and even when he's lost he is still being worshiped by many out there.



I forgot Overroid he's the most overated guy in MMA last 3 years.

I dont think Fedor was undderated when he was considered as #1.

i think Fedor is underrated by people now because he lost those 3 fights.
I still think he could beat or at least challenge those fighters who he lost to, as well as those current top 3 in the world.

he might not be relevant now, but thats because he isnt in the UFC, not because he isnt good enough.
(in my opinion).

to pete:

Edgar is overrated in my opinion, i dont feel the need to elaborate too much, i will just say that he lost to BJ the first time, soundly beaten by Henderson, soundly beaten by fellow overrated Maynard the first time.
his striking is the annoying style, point fighting style, little power.
his wrestling is only for points.

I explained in another thread, i like JDS but he hasnt proven he is anything other than 1 dimensional...and people dont remember this, they consider him as indomitable.
he is deserved #1 as i said, everyone considers him #1 so how can he be underrated? whats higher than #1?


cant really talk too much about Palhares having not seen the Belcher fight, so maybe i shouldnt have included him.
i think based on what ive seen that he would be champ given a shot.

Anfields5thKing wrote:I used to think JDS was one dimensional, I was wrong.

ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:How is JDS one-dimensional? When ever he's been on his back he has passed with flying colours, he's so hard to get down as it is anyway. If he's one dimensional, what on earth would you call Aoki?

JDS might not be able to beat people on the ground but I don't think that makes him one-dimensional at all. He can handle himself on the ground. Unlike Aoki standing.

Spoiler:

Anfields5thKing wrote:I don't think we throw either of them anywhere. Barnett's age just seems to have caught up with him. This is a guy who was fighting for money when Cormier was just beginning his college wrestling career.

Cormier's 5th round was pathetic though, I have no respect for anyone that literally runs away like he did at the end.

p4pnumber_1 wrote:Mamed Khalidov is another very underrated fighter.

Once Mohawked Pete wrote:

Anfields5thKing wrote:I don't think we throw either of them anywhere. Barnett's age just seems to have caught up with him. This is a guy who was fighting for money when Cormier was just beginning his college wrestling career.

Cormier's 5th round was pathetic though, I have no respect for anyone that literally runs away like he did at the end.

Not certain that we can say it's purely because of age can we? He's 34, but hasn't fought more than a couple of times a year since about 2008. It hasn't been a gradual decline either though, has it? I honestly think that Cormier is destined for big things, he's got an awesome wrestling background, and has a lot of power in those hands. I cannot remember the last time I saw Barnett manhandled like that.


I can understand both sides to the Cormier comment, of course I like fighters that constantly look for the finish, but, we've seen in the past, the stupidity of looking for the spectacular, when a fight is in the bag. Maybe a change in scoring would change all of that, but, until it is changed, I don't see any major issue, with a fighter 'playing' to those rules. It's not as if he danced away all fight, and as Sheldan said, it was in the bag at that point. I remember shouting obscenities at the TV, when Hardy decided to take Lyttle to the floor, when I thought he had that fight in the bank.

Sheldan wrote:I don't see what the problem was with the 5th round, for one Cormier had broke his hand and also he was clearly 4-0 up so there was no need for him to engage and risk getting beat. It's no different to a football team keeping the ball in the corner during injury time.

Anfields5thKing wrote:

Sheldan wrote:I don't see what the problem was with the 5th round, for one Cormier had broke his hand and also he was clearly 4-0 up so there was no need for him to engage and risk getting beat. It's no different to a football team keeping the ball in the corner during injury time.

It's completely different. It's similar to what Chelsea did against Barca, time wasting, falling over pretending to be hurt etc.

Barnett was NEVER going to knock him out so he wasn't going to get beat standing. And talking about his hand is nonsense. Barnett broke his in the first round and fought on and kept throwing it. He never turned and ran away.