Munoz injured....Bisping in!!!!!

2brutal wrote:anyone know where i can watch oliveras submission ?

Once Mohawked Pete wrote:

Sheldan wrote:Makes me laugh the lengths that some people go to on here to not give Bisping credit. A lot of the MMA community, Dana White and even Chael Sonnen himself said that they thought Bisping won the fight, yet the members of The Armbar (well known for being Bisping's biggest fan club) clearly know best by saying things such as Sonnen won easily, and that 30-27 was a fair call. Whenever Chael says anything some people on here take it as gospel, but then he says things along the lines of Bisping is a great fighter, he deserves a lot of credit etc, and according to some people on here Chael is obviously just talking rubbish all of a sudden, of course.

This is meant to be a forum full of intelligent members, yet most people on here just arse lick their favourite fighters and claim they're destined for greatness, or constantly discredit fighters they hate.

Sorry dude, but, whilst I have held my hands up, with regards to not giving Bisping enough credit (as a fighter), what the fuck do you expect Sonnen to do? He had a bad night, of course he's going to 'big up' his opponent. 'Chale talking rubbish all of a sudden'? Try all the fucking time mate. Whilst I believe the forum is full of intelligent members, but also very opinionated members, so of course there's going to be criticism, and I don't think I'd have it any other way. Let's not forget as well, that Bisping has still got a 2-4 record against top fighters (if you include Mayhem in that category), and whilst he performed a hell of a lot better than I thought he could, he didn't do enough offensively, he seemed content to try and stop Sonnen beating him.

Anfields5thKing wrote:

manschesthair_utd wrote:

Anfields5thKing wrote:

manschesthair_utd wrote:only seen the bisping fight, thought he won the 2nd round and edged the first round too, though it was very close.
the most dominant round went to Sonnen, even though it ended with Bisping poounding him.
It should have been 29-28 Bisping in my opinion.

Sonnen clearly won the first round. The only thing Bisping did was hold him against the cage.

from the press conference (35.30) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br5lW80H3q8

"Michael Bisping hit me so hard in the first round, i didnt even know what day it was. I remember..when i came to, looking at him and thinking 'oh my god you have no idea how bad you've hurt me or you'd step in and do something'"

I havent watched the whole thing but he goes on to say he wouldnt have felt wronged if bisping won.

Sonnen says a lot of things. He was never rocked in the fight, he's hyping Bisping to make up for having a bad night himself. Sonnen won the first round easily. Second was close. Bisping held him against the cage and tried to be Randy Couture, Sonnen landed more strikes and got a takedown. Third round was a typical Sonnen round. Sonnen's fight, clear as anything.

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:

Once Mohawked Pete wrote:

Sheldan wrote:Makes me laugh the lengths that some people go to on here to not give Bisping credit. A lot of the MMA community, Dana White and even Chael Sonnen himself said that they thought Bisping won the fight, yet the members of The Armbar (well known for being Bisping's biggest fan club) clearly know best by saying things such as Sonnen won easily, and that 30-27 was a fair call. Whenever Chael says anything some people on here take it as gospel, but then he says things along the lines of Bisping is a great fighter, he deserves a lot of credit etc, and according to some people on here Chael is obviously just talking rubbish all of a sudden, of course.

This is meant to be a forum full of intelligent members, yet most people on here just arse lick their favourite fighters and claim they're destined for greatness, or constantly discredit fighters they hate.

Sorry dude, but, whilst I have held my hands up, with regards to not giving Bisping enough credit (as a fighter), what the fuck do you expect Sonnen to do? He had a bad night, of course he's going to 'big up' his opponent. 'Chale talking rubbish all of a sudden'? Try all the fucking time mate. Whilst I believe the forum is full of intelligent members, but also very opinionated members, so of course there's going to be criticism, and I don't think I'd have it any other way. Let's not forget as well, that Bisping has still got a 2-4 record against top fighters (if you include Mayhem in that category), and whilst he performed a hell of a lot better than I thought he could, he didn't do enough offensively, he seemed content to try and stop Sonnen beating him.

How exactly did Sonnen have a bad night? The only thing you're basing that claim on is the fact he struggled to beat Bisping. I fucking hate Bisping, but cmon Pete, stop being so narrow minded and give him the credit he deserves.

2brutal wrote:he is a bit like palhares whenever he gets a step up he comes up short

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:You (and many others) hold his big fight record against him, and that's hilarious because he could conceivably have beaten Rashad, Wanderlei and Sonnen, all of which were very close decisions.

Sheldan wrote:The same people that discredit Bisping for his lack of big names on his record are the ones that are hailing Palhares like he is the second coming for submitting a load of fighters on the same level, if not lower.

Somebody care to explain to me the difference between Bisping beating fighters who are what some people on like to refer to as "unranked" and Palhares beating "unranked" fighters?

2brutal wrote:

granted he lost close to sonnen and rashad and the ko against hendo oops plus a loss allbeit close to a shot wandi come on mate thats a valid point

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:

2brutal wrote:

granted he lost close to sonnen and rashad and the ko against hendo oops plus a loss allbeit close to a shot wandi come on mate thats a valid point

It's not a valid point at all because all of them bar Hendo were close enough they caused controversy. They could easily have been wins for him, the difference is there's absolutely no debate with Palhares' losses, he's been decisively beaten the two times he's faced top opposition.

2brutal wrote:what all 4 mate