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Although they say it'll be "business as usual" I'd doubt they'll happily let Overeem fight in K1.
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rudeboyben84- Light Heavyweight
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Payne were did you hear the Carwin rumor? SF seemed to be clutching at straws with Barnett holding the event he fought in over in japan. I think him not having a licence in the US and Japan going through the current disaster raises a lot of questions about Barnetts future.
I hope we see Barnett get licenced to fight in the US, After all Carwin has probabally taken every bit as many Steroids as Barnett!
I hope we see Barnett get licenced to fight in the US, After all Carwin has probabally taken every bit as many Steroids as Barnett!
payneNglory1- Middleweight
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rudeboyben84 wrote:Payne were did you hear the Carwin rumor? SF seemed to be clutching at straws with Barnett holding the event he fought in over in japan. I think him not having a licence in the US and Japan going through the current disaster raises a lot of questions about Barnetts future.
I hope we see Barnett get licenced to fight in the US, After all Carwin has probabally taken every bit as many Steroids as Barnett!
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/3/15/2051821/is-the-ufcs-purchase-of-strikeforce-bad-for-the-fighters
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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payneNglory1 wrote:
Looks like the UFC are putting Gina straight to work.
Odd.
Didn't realize the UFC had bought Strikeforce..............
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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payneNglory1 wrote:
There are now rumours floating around that Shane Carwin might be replacing Barnett in the Tournament.
and they should immediately be dismissed as complete bullshit.
1. Strikeforce and the UFC are not one and the same.
2. Shane Carwin is contracted to the UFC.
3. Strikeforce are holding the tournament
4. For Carwin to fight in the tournament, Dana would have to release him from his contract.
Sheldan- Middleweight
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Throwing a bit of a curve ball here, but you know how like Strikeforce allows fighters to fight for other promotions overseas. If the UFC held an event overseas, would the Strikeforce fighters be allowed to fight on the UFC card? Or do you think the clause that it can't be UFC they are fighting for still remains? I'm probably going with the latter, but still, never rule anything out.
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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they allow their fighters to fight in organisations from overseas. the ufc are american so the answer is no.
redmeanie77- Middleweight
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But i like your thinking though Sheldan !!
With regards to the Carwin rumour, if they want him in the tourney and Carwin agrees, they could release him from UFC contract (he lost last fight, so they can), and he can sign a 3 fight SF contract for the tourney. Would love to see it happen.
I dont think Barnett is going to fight in the tourney.
manschesthair_utd- Middleweight
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lol!!
does anyone care about phillip lane?
does anyone care about phillip lane?
payneNglory1- Middleweight
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Anfields5thKing wrote:payneNglory1 wrote:
Looks like the UFC are putting Gina straight to work.
Odd.
Didn't realize the UFC had bought Strikeforce..............
Whats the game she's promoting,is it the Strikeforce personal trainer?
No it's the UFC personal trainer,so surely that means she's doing some work for the UFC.
Do you honestly think ZUFFA want to support their babys biggest rival,this is about,what's in the best interests of the UFC,and just like with the IFL,WFA,WEC and Pride in the past,Strikeforce has been bought to increase the power,strength and depth of the UFC,nothing more.
ZUFFA is the UFC and all ZUFFA's actions are for the benifit of the UFC.
If it wasn't for the existing showtime and fighter contracts left in strikeforce,the Strikeforce name,IMO would of died as soon as ZUFFA signed the papers and it would of instantly been swallowed up into the UFC.
ZUFFA holds control over both now,but ZUFFA's baby is the UFC not strikeforce and as soon as it's possible for them to do so,they are going to rape strikeforce of it's best fighters,bringing them all over to the UFC and then either keep strikeforce as there B league show(which I doubt)or just fold the name all together,like they have with every other Orgs they gained controll over in the past.
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http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/16/dana-white-talks-ufc-128-desire-to-book-wanderlei-silva-vs-vit/
Dana talks a little bit more about the purchase here, plus theres UFC 128 preview and a HUGE increase in the chances of seeing Belfort VS Wanderlei
Bisping VS Sonnen surely is basically a done deal now with any other realistic opponent being taken.
Dana talks a little bit more about the purchase here, plus theres UFC 128 preview and a HUGE increase in the chances of seeing Belfort VS Wanderlei
Bisping VS Sonnen surely is basically a done deal now with any other realistic opponent being taken.
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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Rich Franklin mentioned something about cutting to 185 to fight the Cunt the other day, but I think everyone(except Bisping) wants to see Sonnen-Bisping.
Sheldan- Middleweight
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If Bisping-Sonnen is to happen, the UFC would be foolish not to have them as TUF coaches.
Wanderlei wants nothing to do with Vitor from what i'm seeing, he wants Leben.
Either fight would be great, but personally I want Wanderlei-Belfort, Leben should get Belcher.
Wanderlei wants nothing to do with Vitor from what i'm seeing, he wants Leben.
Either fight would be great, but personally I want Wanderlei-Belfort, Leben should get Belcher.
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Sheldan wrote:If Bisping-Sonnen is to happen, the UFC would be foolish not to have them as TUF coaches.
Wanderlei wants nothing to do with Vitor from what i'm seeing, he wants Leben.
Either fight would be great, but personally I want Wanderlei-Belfort, Leben should get Belcher.
That is so Wand
I can just imagine him saying it in his terrible broken English, "him good opponent" lol, He sounds like a caveman sometimes.
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Sheldan wrote:http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/16/dana-white-talks-ufc-128-desire-to-book-wanderlei-silva-vs-vit/
Dana talks a little bit more about the purchase here, plus theres UFC 128 preview and a HUGE increase in the chances of seeing Belfort VS Wanderlei
Bisping VS Sonnen surely is basically a done deal now with any other realistic opponent being taken.
Dana thinks Jon Jones is top 5 right now. The man is officially clueless.
Sheldan- Middleweight
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Anfields5thKing wrote:Sheldan wrote:http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/03/16/dana-white-talks-ufc-128-desire-to-book-wanderlei-silva-vs-vit/
Dana talks a little bit more about the purchase here, plus theres UFC 128 preview and a HUGE increase in the chances of seeing Belfort VS Wanderlei
Bisping VS Sonnen surely is basically a done deal now with any other realistic opponent being taken.
Dana thinks Jon Jones is top 5 right now. The man is officially clueless.
I have him at #6 to be fair, i'd drop to #7 though, it's a toss up between him and Henderson, all depends on how he does on Saturday.
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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Henderson is far ahead. Henderson is number 3 after Shogun and Machida. Evans 4, Rampage 5, Griffin is 6th. Bones is about 7th or 8th.
Sheldan- Middleweight
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Surely Rampage has to be above Machida seeing how he beat him, it was close but Rampage did just edge the fight.
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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Machida beat Rampage quite easily. Lyoto is the number 2 LHW in the world, and would be number 1 had he not been forced to give an undeserved rematch to Shogun, or even just given his own re-match.
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I'm too tired to get into a debate, so fine you can win.
ChelseaQuinsfan- Middleweight
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Hendo is 3rd after having two fights at 205, with neither of them being in the top 10? How exactly?
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There you go Chelsea can lead the debate on my behalf haha, also I still don't know how Anfield can claim Shogun didn't deserve a rematch, basically everyone other than Team Blackhouse members thought Shogun won that fight. If your going to claim that Penn won the first fight with Edgar (which imo was even further apart than Machida-Shogun) and therefore be deserving of a rematch, then the same should apply for Shogun. Even if you don't think he won, the fight was close and to many controversial, therefore Shogun deserved his rematch.
Also I'm not that tired anymore so I'll join the debate, Henderson at this moment in time is not #3, to put him there would basically be ranking him on his past achievements. You don't get schooled off Shields, then beat two guys outside the top 10 and become #3 light heavyweight. You set a precedent by saying Bisping shouldn't be top 10 because he hasn't beat anyone top 10, then you say Henderson is #3 when the only 2 fights he has won at light heavyweight in what 6 years were against two guys who worn't top 10 either, it's madness.
Also I'm not that tired anymore so I'll join the debate, Henderson at this moment in time is not #3, to put him there would basically be ranking him on his past achievements. You don't get schooled off Shields, then beat two guys outside the top 10 and become #3 light heavyweight. You set a precedent by saying Bisping shouldn't be top 10 because he hasn't beat anyone top 10, then you say Henderson is #3 when the only 2 fights he has won at light heavyweight in what 6 years were against two guys who worn't top 10 either, it's madness.
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Sheldan I love the Avatar mate
To be fair regarding Machida and Shogun, I do think Machida was pretty hard done by. I thought it was a very close fight where I had Shogun winning by only 3 rounds to 2 and a couple of those rounds could have gone either way. Considering Shogun didn't deserve the title shot from the beginning, Machida could be considered unlucky.
With that said, I agree about what your saying regarding the Edgar fight. That was a very similar fight to Machida-Shogun with Edgar taking the place of Machida. Yet Anfield, you think that was a robbery? I don't see a massive difference and why one was a robbery and the other wasn't. For me anyway, a robbery is a fight like Hammil vs Bisping or Phan vs Garcia. Where one fighter clearly wins all of the rounds comfortably.
Regarding Machida-Rampage, I thought Machida was a clear 29-28 winner in that fight. But the judges saw it differently and compared to Shogun-Machida, far less people saw it as a robbery. To come with your own personal rankings list is fine if thats how you see them based on there talents. But when your debating an issue with another poster, you can't use those rankings to justify your explanation. I doubt as a majority, the MMA community has Hendo at 3 and Machida at 2 in those rankings.
To be fair regarding Machida and Shogun, I do think Machida was pretty hard done by. I thought it was a very close fight where I had Shogun winning by only 3 rounds to 2 and a couple of those rounds could have gone either way. Considering Shogun didn't deserve the title shot from the beginning, Machida could be considered unlucky.
With that said, I agree about what your saying regarding the Edgar fight. That was a very similar fight to Machida-Shogun with Edgar taking the place of Machida. Yet Anfield, you think that was a robbery? I don't see a massive difference and why one was a robbery and the other wasn't. For me anyway, a robbery is a fight like Hammil vs Bisping or Phan vs Garcia. Where one fighter clearly wins all of the rounds comfortably.
Regarding Machida-Rampage, I thought Machida was a clear 29-28 winner in that fight. But the judges saw it differently and compared to Shogun-Machida, far less people saw it as a robbery. To come with your own personal rankings list is fine if thats how you see them based on there talents. But when your debating an issue with another poster, you can't use those rankings to justify your explanation. I doubt as a majority, the MMA community has Hendo at 3 and Machida at 2 in those rankings.
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1. Shogun Rua
2. Rashad Evans
3. Quinton Jackson
4. Lyoto Machida
5. Jon Jones
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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I had a big post written out, it didn't save.
Basically, Machida beat Shogun the first time. Joe Rogan biased commentary led most people to believe otherwise. Once many people watched the fight without Rogan's bullshit they saw the true outcome. The drones that thought Rampage beat Machida thought so based purely on Rampage's popularity. Rampage is a much more popular fighter, despite being vastly inferior and having had his ass kicked. Even Rampage admitted he lost, just because he changed his mind after Dana put some money in his pocket doesn't change that.
BJ Penn was THE CHAMPION when he got screwed. He was therefore entitled to a rematch. Shogun was a challenger, even if he had been screwed(which he wasn't) he wasn't entitled to a rematch. He should have had to earn one.
Henderson was a top 5 MW who gassed against Shields and lost purely because of that. His career record and accomplishments of course factor into the rankings. Feijao was close to being top 10 and Henderson has a far better record at LHW than Jones. He beat Wanderlei and Belfort at LHW who were top 10, and Franklin who was top 15. Jones has ONE career win against a top 15 fighter!! In fact, I don't think any of his other opponents were even top 20.
Basically, Machida beat Shogun the first time. Joe Rogan biased commentary led most people to believe otherwise. Once many people watched the fight without Rogan's bullshit they saw the true outcome. The drones that thought Rampage beat Machida thought so based purely on Rampage's popularity. Rampage is a much more popular fighter, despite being vastly inferior and having had his ass kicked. Even Rampage admitted he lost, just because he changed his mind after Dana put some money in his pocket doesn't change that.
BJ Penn was THE CHAMPION when he got screwed. He was therefore entitled to a rematch. Shogun was a challenger, even if he had been screwed(which he wasn't) he wasn't entitled to a rematch. He should have had to earn one.
Henderson was a top 5 MW who gassed against Shields and lost purely because of that. His career record and accomplishments of course factor into the rankings. Feijao was close to being top 10 and Henderson has a far better record at LHW than Jones. He beat Wanderlei and Belfort at LHW who were top 10, and Franklin who was top 15. Jones has ONE career win against a top 15 fighter!! In fact, I don't think any of his other opponents were even top 20.
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