He is a funny guy.
I don't dislike him, i severly resent him.
he is ranked #1 apparently, and the highest earning man in mma, after 5 fights, and when he clearly is not a very skilled fighter compared to most high level guys.
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Paddyjock wrote:Hey peeps just popped on to make sure you were all behaving and getting on with each other...
Oh shit!!!
payneNglory1 wrote:Apart from Fedor and Werdum(oh and Cyborg )
None of those fighters are top 15 never mind top 10.
manschesthair_utd wrote:(edit:just realised how long this post is....damn.)
what the hell is going on in here??
Raiden is leaving?? shame to lose a member, but if you can't handle someone disagreeing with you, then you shouldn't be posting on internet forums!
anyway, there are some good points to make about Lesnar's performance. I think he has a fantastic top game, albeit against a gassed wrestler/brawler, but he also showed it against Mir.
he seems to be able to take a punch without getting knocked out, although that certainly does not mean he is comfortable taking punches. hell no.
he turned and ran for his life! what should he have done? clinched up? dropped for a leg when his opponent was coming forward? thrown back?
anyway, ive said the negative things about that main event already on the first page, so i'm not going to repeat himself.
(just a couple of thoughts:
has brock got the worst striking in the division?...and is Carwin the evolution of the heavyweight division....or a buff Tank Abbott?)
On to the UFC vs the rest debate, i'm going to post some of the reasons why i will support the rivals of the UFC.
Here are some facts first:
1. The UFC is the biggest MMA promotion in the world, by a distance.
2. They have the highest level of fighters, in general.
Some of the way that they run the promotion is disgusting to me, these are some problems that other promotions don't have.
Firstly we have the figure head (biggest knobhead) of the promotion, Dana fuckin White.
This guy is a two faces, dishonest, greedy, lying piece of shit.
NOTHING he said can be taken in earnest, if it isn't lining his pockets, he shits all over it.
When the UFC were trying to sign Fedor he said (paraphrasing)
"I am doing everything i can to get the best heavyweight in the world, Fedor to fight in the octagon"
this week he said:
"Fedor Emelianenko is a fake, a phony and a farce, even when you put him against cans he can't win."
he also told the lie "we don't sign fighters coming of a loss"
the reason he said this things is not because he beleives them, but because Fedor is a man who will not suck up to Dana White, he will not be controlled by him, he is a man who doesn't buy into the UFC hype machine that you must be in the UFC if you want to succeed as a fighter, and therefore will not "sell his soul" to ZUFFA. Dana hates this.
I think Dana could be the reign holding MMA back. This guy is a foul mouthed fake hard man, as what is effectively the figurehead of MMA. Is that really the image we want for MMA?
You can say certain things about how he made the sport bigger, but what i said is totally true.
Other things i don't like about the UFC is the way they promote MMA. To me when i watch the UFC, with all the nu-metal music, everyone has a skull somewhere on their clothing, the fighters, their coaching teams, at the weigh ins even Bruce buffer has it....that fucking Gladiator!!!! he pisses me off....this isn't a blood sport, no-one is fighting to the death here...they don't use swords!
It perpetuates the wrong image, i despise it.....and then there is the cage, the perfect fighting arena to go along with this created image that the sport has in the west. Its a cage!!! Chickens fight in cages.
the KSW and M1 promoters have said they will never go near a cage because it is not acceptable in Europe, this speaks volumes.
The cage is a gimmick for UFC 1, they used it because the crocodile filled moat idea was too far fetched.
then there is the match making.
Karlos Vermola vs Jon Madsen.
why??
Vermola is one of the most aggressive fighters ever, and he is matched up to one of the most notorious blankets in the UFC.
most of the matchups make no sense to me.
anyway all this ranting i have gassed out.
I will just say that Strikeforce promoting in a similar fashion to the boxing...which is almost completely accepted in the mainstream, is good for MMA.
And DREAM promoting a more family friendly entertainment package (minimal blood) compared with the UFC is also good for MMA.
Dogbomb wrote:I can't understand why this thread has gone so crazy!
UFC 116 was one of the best events I can remember.
Good undercard (including 'that' powerslam)
Fights that made me jump out of my seat (and that was hard as I was on a bean bag) - Bonnar Soszynsky, Leben Akiyama.
Questions answered - Is Brock beatable? does Carwin gas?
Great Stories - Lesnar almost dying, coming back and winning against the odds, an aussie lightweight contender, Leben's two wins in two weeks.
Great quotes - Brock being so humble (was this real? and how prepared was his speech!), Bonnar with his pints of blood and saying - I love you Joe Rogan.
Thoroughly entertaining. Let's remember that whilst the UFC and Dana are not perfect, the name of the game is entertainment.
We are lucky we don't have to pay $50 for events!
Whilst I have my favourites, I feel like a lot of MMA fans are guilty of supporting fighters and not fights. Sometimes this leads to pretty lop sided views of contests and people spitting the dummy when their favs lose.
Lighten up everyone. UFC 116 was awesome.
payneNglory1 wrote:Well done Raiden
We knew you couldn't leave this board,it's like crack
You say what you want to say mate
especially to that angry scouse supporting git
Anyone who questions my cardio should come and train with me. We trained for a twenty-five minute fight but things go wrong. It happens. I basically had an adrenaline dump towards the end of the first (round) and I was unable to recover in between rounds. I think the biggest factor of the adrenaline dump was hearing Rosenthal say, `Brock I am going to stop it,’ and then not stopping it. He said it at least three different points in the round, and each time I went for the finish and it never came. It sucked the wind and life out of me.
I am surprised by how many people view their jobs as an obstacle to chasing your dreams. The job has allowed me to become the fighter I am today; it has not hindered me in any way. I find it insulting that people do not understand that. Ask any of the pro fighters I train with if they out train me or think I could be a better fighter if I was in the gym more. Fact is I might be the one in the gym the most.
My life has a structure to it and I include training into that structure. I am not shooting movies, working on TV shows, or working in a 9-5 bank. I am a full-time fighter, full-time engineer, father and husband. My whole life I have been a multi-sport athlete and was always required to do my fair share around the house and in school. The fundamentals of life came before the pursuit of my dreams.
If I had it to do all over again I would probably go for it again. If some of those hard blows landed he would have been knocked out. This was the biggest fight of my life and I swung for the fences and came up short. Next time, I won’t falter and I will have my hand raised.
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