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Being injured and poor doesn't affect head movement.
He didn't outgrapple Machida AT ALL. He got taken down with ease. Getting back up is a lot easier than taking someone down if neither of you are wrestlers.
Sonnen is a multi-time all american, 2 time national champion, 2 national runner up. Now, just to repeat, for FOUR straight years he was one of the top 2 wrestlers in the country in his weight class.
You are, as usual, completely wrong about Randleman's style of wrestling. He's a free style wrestler, not a traditional collegiate wrestler. Traditional collegiate wrestling is known as folkstyle. Everyone in college wrestles the same style you complete numpty. If they wish to compete internationally, or in other competitions they then make a decision on whether to go freestyle or greco. You didn't even know how good Randleman was until I told you anyway! You had no idea what he'd won or how many times he'd been an all-american. Sonnen's college accomplishments match, if not outrank Randlemans and his silver medal at the world championships is more impressive than being an Olympian who didn't medal, or an Olympic alternative. Sonnen is the best wrestler in MMA and only Askren can compare to him. Just because he gave Nate the average a beating it's no reason to try and discredit him. And you shouldn't try to debate wrestling when you know very little about it.
Coleman's not even in the discussion.
Fitch is a greco-wrestler, have you ever watched him fight??. As are; Couture, Severn, Frye, Henderson, Lindland, Shields, Maynard and now Askren, who has seen the error of his ways following his olympic disaster, is wrestling a greco style. Greco is more effective in MMA. Would you like to compare championships won??
Ofc it does, he was awful in the Coleman fight and wasn't focused so he didn't use his head movement. With his knee injured he couldn't move around as fluid and he was much slower.
If he wanted to he could out grapple Machida with EASE. As it is, he prefers the standup and would much prefer to KTFO of his opponent instead.
Im really confused with the wrestling thing, I though Collegiate wrestling was also called freestyle wrestling. Either way I wasn't trying to say you were wrong so I don't know why your getting angry. No I didn't know how good Randleman was before you told me, I thought he was a bum. So? As frustrating as it is to debate with you sometimes, I can't deny I do learn a lot from them.
If its more impressive why didn't Sonnen get into the olympics?
Do you really think I would discredit someone who beat one of my favorite fighters. No im not a bitter little person, in fact I would give credit to that fighter because it shows my said fighter can only be beaten by top opponents. I liked Sonnen before you did anyway, it was only a few weeks ago were you spouting stuff like he's going to sleep quick and shit like that. I just think he would get beaten by Shogun, which he clearly would.
If Greco-Roman is really more effective why do more people go to freestyle?
