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Anfields5thKing wrote:ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:Anfields5thKing wrote:CL Final against Chelsea he was awful! He kept be moved from wing to wing so he could try and climb out of Cole's pocket. Horrible performance.
Messi was fantastic in the last two CL finals. As was Iniesta. Ronaldo has been awful in both CL finals he's played. Ronaldo hasn't single-handedly led a club to a CL, Messi did it last year. Makes up for his poor WC.
Winning 1 Ballon D'or is impressive but nothing compared to 3 in a year. Ronaldo would need to win 3 in a row to match Messi's accomplishments. Not a chance of it happening.
Ronaldo has never played as striker for Real and doesn't play there for Portugal either. Stop lying, it's embarrassing.
Ronaldo was never as prolific without Ozil. Ozil has far more assists and far more chances created than either Xavi or Iniesta over the last two seasons. Messi creates far more chances for himself than Ronaldo. Ronaldo has far more creators with high numbers of assists in his team than Messi does.
Ronaldo has scored more goals in the last two seasons BECAUSE HE TAKES 100 SHOTS A SEASON MORE. How hard is that for your little mind to understand. Messi is a far better goalscorer because he converts a far higher percentage of his chances.
And look at their fucking careers, Messi's goals to game ratio is superior.
Messi is better in every aspect other than heading and given Ronaldo's about 6 inches taller than him it's hardly surprising.
It wasn't a poor performance, Cole just played a stormer that day. Cole has always had Ronaldo's number. Trying to get away from a player who has you in his back pocket doesn't mean you are playing badly. Same thing happened has happened to Messi before against lesser players. I remember at the world cup against Greece he was completely ineffective one of the Greek players stuck to him like a fly on shit.
I agree both Messi and Iniesta were incredible but Messi didn't single handily lead Barca to anything. The entire team was incredible.
If Messi retired then he would have a chance although I wouldn't back him to do it.
Ofc he has and has done so for UTD as well. In the Manchester derby on the anniversary of the Munich crash where Utd lost 2-1. It shows before the match very clearly that he was playing as a striker for all the teams I mentioned, not sure what's so hard to understand? I gain absolutely nothing by lying about this, I can't even remember why I brought it up in the first place. Messi has played striker as well.
Messi plays(ed) for the best team of this generation, quite possibly ever. Last season Alves was close to the top of the assists league table. Ronaldo still scored over 40 goals playing in the much more defensive PL without Ozil. If Ronaldo played at Barca he would score just as many if not more goals.
As I've said before, Messi is more efficient but it means fuck all if Ronaldo scores more which he has. Ronaldo deserves his credit for creating so many chances because at the end of the day stats don't mean shit. Goals do however and there are plenty of players who will take 1000 shots a season without getting a goal. Using the number of shots Ronaldo's takes to discredit the amount of goals he has is comical because it's clearly a system that works for him.
I've already stated that Ronaldo played in a defensive league while Messi has played in one leauge and one team his whole life. That's what the stats don't tell you. Moving league 3 times and developing new partnerships with new players will affect the number of goals you score. Messi knows the league and team like the back of his hand.
Ronaldo has better hair so atleast he has the going for him.
It was an awful performance. Cole barely broke sweat. Ronaldo has never performed in a major final.
Last season in the CL Messi carried Barca. Everyone who watched them play knows it.
Never played as a striker for Real. Left winger every single week. Maybe a handful of times for United but you can count on one hand the number of times he's played as a striker.
Messi is more efficient and more prolific. Those are the only two things that it's based on and Messi is far superior in both. He's also outscoring Ronaldo this season just to top things off. 10 more goals than him.
Nobody in Europe has taken more shots than Ronaldo in any of the last 5 seasons. Nobody has even been within 70 of him. He's selfish and wastes ridiculous amounts of chances and his lack of efficiency is a massive negative.
Premier League is not a defensive league. Hilarious that you would think that it is.
Messi's hair is far superior! Flowing locks beats greasy pretty boy every time.
The Premier league is a more defensive league than La Liga is what I meant to say.
As I said Cole had him in his pocket but there's no shame there. He was still one of Utd's best players. Ronaldo performed in the Copa Del ray against Barca.
He has.
He is more efficent but I'm not sure he's more prolific, their records are very close. It's hard to be more prolific than a guy who has far more goals than games.
Messi should have kept his hair long, either way neither of them can touch Puyol or the best hair in football
