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    Anthony Johnson finally grows some balls...

    Post  ChelseaQuinsfan on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:14 pm

    He moves to 185 and scheduled to fight Belfort at UFC 142.


    - The UFC announced the following bout for the UFC 142 PPV…
    A second Brazilian mega-star is set to fight at home at UFC 142. "Verbal agreements in for what should be an explosive matchup as powerhouse Anthony ‘Rumble' Johnson moves up to middleweight to face ‘The Phenom' Vitor Belfort at the event," UFC president Dana White said.

    UFC 142 is expected to take place Jan. 14 at Rio de Janeiro's HSBC Arena, and UFC featherweight champ Jose Aldo (20-1 MMA, 2-0 UFC) is on the card, defending his title against Chad Mendes (11-0 MMA, 2-0 UFC).

    Should be a good fight if they stand and bang but I can see Johnson using his wrestling in this fight. I see Belfort KOing Johnson though but finally Johnson mans up and fights at a more natural weight class. It could improve him as a fighter.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:20 pm

    Was just about to post this. Although I think Belfort is slightly overrated, he's still top 5. I see him finishing Johnson with a flurry of punches. Fair play to Johnson for making the move.

    Although in my opinion, I had nothing against Johnson fighting at 170. If it worked for him and he was winning fights then why not. It's probably got to the point where Johnson's body can't take another weight cut like that.
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    Post  ChelseaQuinsfan on Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:59 pm

    p4pnumber_1 wrote:Was just about to post this. Although I think Belfort is slightly overrated, he's still top 5. I see him finishing Johnson with a flurry of punches. Fair play to Johnson for making the move.

    Although in my opinion, I had nothing against Johnson fighting at 170. If it worked for him and he was winning fights then why not. It's probably got to the point where Johnson's body can't take another weight cut like that.

    Ye I agree Belfort is a bit overrated but he's still a good fighter and top 5 I think. I see him stopping Johnson as well.

    I don't mind big fighters fighting at smaller weight classes but with Johnson it is just ridiculous. Look at this for example:



    Johnson 170? Arvloski 240? You are having a laugh. Pictures like that suggest he should be fighting at 185 as an absolute minimum, he really could fight at 205.

    Plus he's missed weight a couple of times and it's wasn't exactly a small margin either. Plus I don't think cutting weight like that is healthy at all.
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    Re: Anthony Johnson finally grows some balls...

    Post  pinsman on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:09 pm

    Jeez guys who can you call Belfort over rated? If anything i'd say hes a fighter that has never really reached his full potential... Belfort is a absoulute banger, I watch him smash Wandi around a cage time and time again at a time when Wandi was unstoppable!
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:13 pm

    Could see Rumble winning this fight this is the type of fighter Vitor usually struggles with but will Rumble stand and trade or grapple fuck Vitor very interesting fight.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:47 pm

    pinsman wrote:Jeez guys who can you call Belfort over rated? If anything i'd say hes a fighter that has never really reached his full potential... Belfort is a absoulute banger, I watch him smash Wandi around a cage time and time again at a time when Wandi was unstoppable!

    I think he's slightly overrated. If you look at his record it isn't actually that impressive. Still a great fighter don't get me wrong and one of the best middleweights at the minute.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:50 pm

    ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:
    p4pnumber_1 wrote:Was just about to post this. Although I think Belfort is slightly overrated, he's still top 5. I see him finishing Johnson with a flurry of punches. Fair play to Johnson for making the move.

    Although in my opinion, I had nothing against Johnson fighting at 170. If it worked for him and he was winning fights then why not. It's probably got to the point where Johnson's body can't take another weight cut like that.

    Ye I agree Belfort is a bit overrated but he's still a good fighter and top 5 I think. I see him stopping Johnson as well.

    I don't mind big fighters fighting at smaller weight classes but with Johnson it is just ridiculous. Look at this for example:



    Johnson 170? Arvloski 240? You are having a laugh. Pictures like that suggest he should be fighting at 185 as an absolute minimum, he really could fight at 205.

    Plus he's missed weight a couple of times and it's wasn't exactly a small margin either. Plus I don't think cutting weight like that is healthy at all.

    How the hell does he make 170?!?!
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    Post  ChelseaQuinsfan on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:00 pm

    p4pnumber_1 wrote:
    pinsman wrote:Jeez guys who can you call Belfort over rated? If anything i'd say hes a fighter that has never really reached his full potential... Belfort is a absoulute banger, I watch him smash Wandi around a cage time and time again at a time when Wandi was unstoppable!

    I think he's slightly overrated. If you look at his record it isn't actually that impressive. Still a great fighter don't get me wrong and one of the best middleweights at the minute.

    Aside from Wandi and past there best Fraklin and Lindland he hasn't beaten the best competition. Wandi was unstoppable? He was 4-1. He had beaten a bunch of cans, his best win was Van Arsedale! Wandi didn't become unbeatable until after losing to Tito. I would agree he didn't fullfil his potentiol but people seem to rate him on his potential more than what he has actually accomplished. That makes him a tad overrated IMO.
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    Re: Anthony Johnson finally grows some balls...

    Post  ChelseaQuinsfan on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:03 pm

    p4pnumber_1 wrote:
    ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:
    p4pnumber_1 wrote:Was just about to post this. Although I think Belfort is slightly overrated, he's still top 5. I see him finishing Johnson with a flurry of punches. Fair play to Johnson for making the move.

    Although in my opinion, I had nothing against Johnson fighting at 170. If it worked for him and he was winning fights then why not. It's probably got to the point where Johnson's body can't take another weight cut like that.

    Ye I agree Belfort is a bit overrated but he's still a good fighter and top 5 I think. I see him stopping Johnson as well.

    I don't mind big fighters fighting at smaller weight classes but with Johnson it is just ridiculous. Look at this for example:



    Johnson 170? Arvloski 240? You are having a laugh. Pictures like that suggest he should be fighting at 185 as an absolute minimum, he really could fight at 205.

    Plus he's missed weight a couple of times and it's wasn't exactly a small margin either. Plus I don't think cutting weight like that is healthy at all.

    How the hell does he make 170?!?!

    He either has a prosthetic arm or leg or he starves himself like an 18 year girl on crack.
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    Re: Anthony Johnson finally grows some balls...

    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:45 pm

    pinsman wrote:Jeez guys who can you call Belfort over rated? If anything i'd say hes a fighter that has never really reached his full potential... Belfort is a absoulute banger, I watch him smash Wandi around a cage time and time again at a time when Wandi was unstoppable!

    Wandi was 5-1 with his only notable win being over Mike Van Arsdale who was a great wrestler but not a very good fight. Hardly Wandi at his peak.

    Vitor is over-rated. Who's he beaten? Couture on a cut and a past it Lindland? Oh and a Rich Franklin that was years past his own over-rated best. Hardly impressive.

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    Post  BeardBighter on Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:50 am

    p4pnumber_1 wrote:
    pinsman wrote:Jeez guys who can you call Belfort over rated? If anything i'd say hes a fighter that has never really reached his full potential... Belfort is a absoulute banger, I watch him smash Wandi around a cage time and time again at a time when Wandi was unstoppable!

    I think he's slightly overrated. If you look at his record it isn't actually that impressive. Still a great fighter don't get me wrong and one of the best middleweights at the minute.

    Spot on mate, this.
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    Post  manschesthair_utd on Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:35 am

    belforts record isnt that impressive, he has had a lot of bad fights... but his record is not the reason why people rate him so highly.

    just watch him fight and its pretty obvious why people hold him in such a high standing.

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    Post  Wonga on Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:54 am

    Belfort's past few performances have been a huge improvement from his time in Pride. He has looked much better since the move to middle weight.

    Still think Johnson will take it though

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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:12 pm

    manschesthair_utd wrote:belforts record isnt that impressive, he has had a lot of bad fights... but his record is not the reason why people rate him so highly.

    just watch him fight and its pretty obvious why people hold him in such a high standing.

    Because he's a good fighter for the first four minutes but after that he's one of the worst in the sport? Bit like watching Shane Carwin isn't it?
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    Post  rudeboyben84 on Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:28 pm



    Jones is only a couple of inches taller than him. If Rumble carried a bit of weight or Bulked up more the guy could be a Heavy never mind a Lhw! Id say he wouldnt look undersized against Cain or Nog for example.

    He says 170lbs is his home but seriously look at him in those pics to him on the scales weighing 170.. or however close he gets to the Welterweight limit Laughing



    Against Rich Clementi he really fucked up the cut, 177.5 that was at 22, he is 27 now and walks around big between fights. I dont know why he would think 170 is his home.

    Im a massive Vitor fan clearly because probabally each and every one of you have told me off for ranking him too highly on the rankings at some point! Laughing But I dont see him winning this.

    At 185 Rumble is the bigger man still, Taller, Rangier, Heavier build, Cuts from a higher weight. I reckon Vitors punch power get him by a lot but Rumble chin to power could win in a punch for punch fight.

    Kos out wrestled him and he is a 170er but Vitor hastn a hope of being the better wrestler. Plus Vitor isnt a cardio machine. I think with Rumble cutting less weight than normal it will only improve him. Watch Rumble against Reiner or Speer he has the same sort of brutal fight ending power that makes Belfort specail but he is bigger, tougher and can out wrestle him.

    Rumble KO round 2.

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    Post  gre660wl on Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:04 pm

    if he didnt stand and trade too long with hardy, surely he aint gonna trade with vitor? Rumble by UD
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    Post  ChelseaQuinsfan on Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:54 am

    He really is a massive man. He could easily fight at HW.

    He's a fairly good wrestler but his ground game needs a lot of work. Belfort is not BJJ wizard but I think he has enough skills to tap Johnson. Don't think Johnson can outbox Belfort either.
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    Post  Sheldan on Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:14 am

    I think Johnson will bottle it and pull out with an "injury"
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    Post  TrentFromChelsea on Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:35 pm

    oi, i agree fighting at WW and wrestlefucking hardy was weak.

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    Post  GSPfan11 on Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:24 pm

    Hope Vitor catches him early, really enjoy watching Vitor fight and would be gutted if he lost to Rumble.

    If Rumble was to win this fight how many wins away from a title fight would he be?
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    Post  rudeboyben84 on Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:25 am

    GSPfan11 wrote:Hope Vitor catches him early, really enjoy watching Vitor fight and would be gutted if he lost to Rumble.

    If Rumble was to win this fight how many wins away from a title fight would he be?

    If Rumble wins this he is probabally a win away, I could see him fighting Okami (who I cant see him beating)

    Or the Bisping vs Mayhem winner.

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