UFC's loss Strikeforces gain...

http://www.mmabay.co.uk/2010/08/01/paul-%E2%80%9Csemtex%E2%80%9D-daley-signs-a-six-fight-contract-with-strikeforce-evangelista-%E2%80%9Ccyborg%E2%80%9D-santos-up-first/

SF just signed top 10 Ww Paul Daley! His 1st fight is going to be Cybory Santos... anyone see a repeat of Cyborg vs Manhoef??? Awsome news. Winner of this gives Diaz a credible fight at 170lbs for sure.

Good job UFC. You just handed over a top 10, possibly 5 welterweight right over to your biggest competitors.

thats a great signing for Strikeforce and Daley,if it comes off and I'm happy for Daley,that he is going to be getting the publicity his skills warrent in a big Org instead of wasting his time flitting between smaller Orgs.

I thought he might have stayed away from Strikeforce with the hope that the UFC might have gave him another chance down the line,but obviously the chances of that happening are pretty slim,and he'll be wasting time and money waiting,so I don't blame him one bit,he's got to look after No1 and the money he'll make off his Strikeforce contract,I would imagine will dwarf what he can make out of these little Orgs(thats if these Orgs actually end up paying there fighters ),plus he has stability and the fact he'll be fighting in front of a far bigger audience at Strikeforce.

I think Dana was right for the company in making the stand and cutting him,after what he did,but this is deffinitely the UFC's loss and Strikeforces gain.

I assume this means he's not fighting on the Shark Fights card?? Good signing for Strikeforce. Still think he needs to beat a credible grappler to be ranked as one of the top WW in the world but SF have some decent fights for him.

According to the article,he'll still be fighting on the shark fight card and in the golden glory 8 man tourney,

Ah ok, cheers mate. I'm posting off my blackberry. Came away and left my laptop at home. Two weeks without it, bit much.

No probs bud

Anfields5thKing wrote:I assume this means he's not fighting on the Shark Fights card?? Good signing for Strikeforce. Still think he needs to beat a credible grappler to be ranked as one of the top WW in the world but SF have some decent fights for him.

Dustin Hazelett?

Paul Daley hasn't signed with Strikeforce, fighter weighing options

Former Cage Rage champion and recent UFC fighter Paul Daley has not signed with Strikeforce.

Despite reports of a completed six-figure deal, Strikeforce spokesperson Mike Afromowitz today told MMAjunkie,no deal has been reached with the British fighter. Additionally, a representative for Daley said the fighter is weighing multiple options.

Daley currently is slated to fight at next month's Shark Fights 13 event as part of a one-fight deal with the promotion.

"At this point, I'm not really in a position to comment at this point and time," Wad Alameddine of Fight Management told MMAjunkie.com. "We've definitely been talking to Strikeforce, and we've been talking to a number of different groups. But right now, I'm in a position where I can't make any comment on that, unfortunately."

Daley, who's ranked among the world's top 10 at 170 pounds, also is one of the sport's top free agents. However, he only became available after UFC officials terminated his contract following UFC 113. After dropping a unanimous decision to Josh Koscheck at the May event, Daley threw a post-fight punch at his rival. UFC president Dana White condemned the action and announced the fighter's termination just an hour later in the night's post-fight press conference.

Despite the loss and the criticism he received, Daley nonetheless owns a solid 24-9-2 record, and he's won five of his past six fights (all via stoppage). Most recently, he submitted Daniel Acacio (21-9 at the time) at July's Impact FC 2 event in Australia.

An opponent has not been named for his upcoming Shark Fights 13 bout, which is part of the deepest fight card in the Texas-based promotion's history.

If signed, Daley, who counts 18 knockouts among his 24 career wins, would join a Strikeforce welterweight division currently ruled by champ Nick Diaz. Other notables in the weight class include Jay Hieron, Andre Galvao, Joe Riggs, Tyron Woodley and Marius Zaromskis.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/20135/officials-paul-daley-hasnt-signed-with-strikeforce-fighter-weighing-options.mma

Shanemc wrote:

Anfields5thKing wrote:I assume this means he's not fighting on the Shark Fights card?? Good signing for Strikeforce. Still think he needs to beat a credible grappler to be ranked as one of the top WW in the world but SF have some decent fights for him.

Dustin Hazelett?

Hazelett is a good grappler, but not a top class fighter. And he stood in front of Daley with his hands wide and his chin up.

MMAjunkie never gets it wrong.

Daley has never beat a decent wrestler. He was taken down and controlled by Kos and Thompson and taken down and subbed by Shields, Kitaoka and Healy. Anyone with decent takedowns has been able to beat him easily. He needs to sort out his takedown defence I think, it seems to me like he will never be able to fight off his back, which is fine. Most fighters today can't, but if he can stop the takedowns he can be a really good fighter.

Worst matchups on paper for him at SF are Hieron because of his wrestling, Diaz because of his BJJ and some time down the road possibly Woodley and Coy.

I think he beats Hieron easily, he'll KO before he has a chance to shoot but Diaz is a tougher one. If Diaz tries to trade lather with him, Diaz will go to sleep but if Diaz can get him down then its over.

Big loss for the UFC, Daley could blast out anyone at the weight.

jimmyboypost wrote:Big loss for the UFC, Daley could blast out anyone at the weight.

Except anyone with the slightest hint of wrestling.

Daley's wrestling was actually pretty decent against Koscheck I thought. The fact he was able to stuff even a few takedowns and escape a few times was extremely encouraging. Koscheck is arguable the number 2/3 wrestler at 170.

yes he has a weakness to wrestling...doesnt mean wrestlers are immune to his power shots to the chin!

manschesthair_utd wrote:yes he has a weakness to wrestling...doesnt mean wrestlers are immune to his power shots to the chin!

What are the chances that he lands one of those powers shots whilst on his back? And thats where hes gonna be more often than not when he faces wrestlers, as we've seen with the fights with Kos and Shields, they aren't stupid enough to stand with him. What, do you think Daley has a chance against Fitch or even GSP? I think not. I'd love to see him improve his takedown defense and just utilize sprawl and brawl ala Cro Cop but with his attitude i just dont see it happening.

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:

manschesthair_utd wrote:yes he has a weakness to wrestling...doesnt mean wrestlers are immune to his power shots to the chin!

What are the chances that he lands one of those powers shots whilst on his back? And thats where hes gonna be more often than not when he faces wrestlers, as we've seen with the fights with Kos and Shields, they aren't stupid enough to stand with him. What, do you think Daley has a chance against Fitch or even GSP? I think not. I'd love to see him improve his takedown defense and just utilize sprawl and brawl ala Cro Cop but with his attitude i just dont see it happening.

Thats why he will never be in the top of the division. Only with a puncher's chance, a la Matt Serra

My point exactly, hendos_right_hook.

There's a difference between not being able to beat GSP/Koscheck/Shields (top the division) and being completely vulnerable to anyone with a hint of wrestling. The idea "oh his wrestling isn't good enough to make him champion" does not mean his wrestling is worthless entirely. I think he's going to wreck Diaz if he signs with Strikeforce.

It doesn't appear his wrestling is his only weakness though, thats the thing. I believe his all round grappling is also in question.

Diaz will sub him.

wilksdaman wrote:Good job UFC. You just handed over a top 10, possibly 5 welterweight right over to your biggest competitors.

Top 5? My ballix is he top 5, in fact he would be lucky to be 10th in my top 10

He will never beat Nick Diaz. No chance

come on guys! you must get it by now!!
the super one dimensional fighters such as daley, aoki, pat barry, maia....ALWAYS have a chance.

How does he have no chance against Diaz? He's a better striker, with good takedown defense and with a lot more power. Honestly, Diaz is one of the most over-rated fighters here. Zaromskis had him in big trouble not all that long ago, and Diaz hasn't fought any real top quality fighters in a long time.