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Bisping's Training Diary
Moose Stuff For Money...- Middleweight
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Bisping's Training Diary
mikeyboybisping- Featherweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Wanderlai's shot, Bisping will destroy him.
Come on Mike!
Come on Mike!
redmeanie77- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
When this fight was first announced i was sure Wanderlei would knock his head off, but doubts have started to come in to my mind and think we could see Bisping steal a Descion victory.
I would be gutted if it happens, we could very well see the fall of 3 pride legends at 110.
I would be gutted if it happens, we could very well see the fall of 3 pride legends at 110.
Albion_Oakley- Welterweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
To be honest I see this fight very much as I did bisping vs hendo, its a matter of timing. The result depends on how much wanderlei is on the slide, if he has gone too far then bisping will beat him. Like I say though, I thought that about hendo, and he outclassed bisping still.
Once Mohawked Pete- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I'm sorry. I cannot see Mike making it out of the 1st round, let alone winning it. I too feel the same about this fight, as I did the Hendo fight. I cannot see Bisping hurting Wandy in the stand-up. I see Wandy catching a back-peddling Bisping and decking him. Whilst Bisping looked good from his back against Kang, Wandy will NOT let him off the way that Denis did. Wandy by vicious GnP 1st rd.
rudeboyben84- Light Heavyweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I cant see Bisping making it out of the 1st either. Its nice to see him showing respect for one of the greatest all time MMA fighers.. makes him a little less hateable.
Wanderlei is very beatable these days, ive said a million times all his boxing training goes out the window and the arms go up and far apart, cocked to throw right left hook combos... it makes him very easy to tag straight down the middle, Belfort exploited this and I dont think he has really refined his style since the Belfort fight.
But lets be real lads. Wanderlei is 1-1 with Hendo who battered Bisping. Looking at current form and Both Hendo and Wandy gave Rich Franklin a 50-50 fight... So we can assume the Wanderlei we saw against Rich would make short work of Bisping....
But Wanderlei wont be the same weight drained fighter we saw against Rich, Anyone who has saw Wanderlei recently can even see with a shirt on thart he has lost a lot of bulk, and will fit the 185lbs weight class perfectly. Technically Wandlerlei will still be the same I reckon, Bisping will be able to land a few shots at most down the middle Jab, straight then Wandlerlei will plow forwards and Mangle him. This will be a Quicker Wanderlei with great cardio, he wont gass like he did against Rich.
It be shocked to see anything but a 1 sided 1st round KO, The Bookies have Wanderlei as a massive favorite. 2010 will see Wand become a force in the 185lbs devision.
Wanderlei is very beatable these days, ive said a million times all his boxing training goes out the window and the arms go up and far apart, cocked to throw right left hook combos... it makes him very easy to tag straight down the middle, Belfort exploited this and I dont think he has really refined his style since the Belfort fight.
But lets be real lads. Wanderlei is 1-1 with Hendo who battered Bisping. Looking at current form and Both Hendo and Wandy gave Rich Franklin a 50-50 fight... So we can assume the Wanderlei we saw against Rich would make short work of Bisping....
But Wanderlei wont be the same weight drained fighter we saw against Rich, Anyone who has saw Wanderlei recently can even see with a shirt on thart he has lost a lot of bulk, and will fit the 185lbs weight class perfectly. Technically Wandlerlei will still be the same I reckon, Bisping will be able to land a few shots at most down the middle Jab, straight then Wandlerlei will plow forwards and Mangle him. This will be a Quicker Wanderlei with great cardio, he wont gass like he did against Rich.
It be shocked to see anything but a 1 sided 1st round KO, The Bookies have Wanderlei as a massive favorite. 2010 will see Wand become a force in the 185lbs devision.
Anfields5thKing- Light Heavyweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
As long as Wandi can go all out for a round he'll win the fight. Powder-puff Bitchping isn't going to KO him so Wandi can be wreckless and go Chute Boxe style in search of that chin.
And when he finds it, fight over.
Bitchping hasn't a chance IMO. Not even a punchers chance. Unless he runs away from 3 rounds.
And when he finds it, fight over.
Bitchping hasn't a chance IMO. Not even a punchers chance. Unless he runs away from 3 rounds.
hendos_right_hook- Welterweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I've said this in the 2010 predictions thread, but I can see Bisping winning this. Don't want him to, but I think he could.
pinsman- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I think I want him to win... I'm a big Wandi fan but I want Bisping to win purely because he is british, and I think he deserves a break, I truely blieve he has matured and has learnt his lesson...
ChelseaQuinsfan- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Bisping is a good fighter, Wandy is a great fighter. Wandy has lost to Franklin, Rampage, Liddell, Hendo and Cro Cop. Which one of those wouldn't defeat Bisping inside two rounds?
Franklin is a good way to show this fight, he gave both Hendo and Wandy 50-50 fights winning one and losing the other. Hendo procceded to destroy Bisping inside two rounds. Franklin himself would beat Bisping inside two rounds easily. Wandy will do the same.
Whats Bisping going to do? He isn't going to KO Wandy, he isn't going to sub him either, the only way he wins is by Decision. Bisping is not on the level Wandy ever was, Wandy should be back to his ways here. I could see a repeat of the Jardine fight or if not, finish in the second. Either way I think it will be a TKO.
Franklin is a good way to show this fight, he gave both Hendo and Wandy 50-50 fights winning one and losing the other. Hendo procceded to destroy Bisping inside two rounds. Franklin himself would beat Bisping inside two rounds easily. Wandy will do the same.
Whats Bisping going to do? He isn't going to KO Wandy, he isn't going to sub him either, the only way he wins is by Decision. Bisping is not on the level Wandy ever was, Wandy should be back to his ways here. I could see a repeat of the Jardine fight or if not, finish in the second. Either way I think it will be a TKO.
manschesthair_utd- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
remember before the Kang fight he said we would see the "old bisping" on a permanent basis from now on? and we ended up with an exciting fight where he got absolutley rattled in the first round!
If he continues this notion he will get blasted in highly entertaining fashion!
If he goes back to his JnP (jap and plod) tactics he will make it to round 2 before getting blasted in highly satisfactory fashion!
If he continues this notion he will get blasted in highly entertaining fashion!
If he goes back to his JnP (jap and plod) tactics he will make it to round 2 before getting blasted in highly satisfactory fashion!
pinsman- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Im guna put my neck on the line and say Biping will win!!! ha ha ha Wandy will come out hard in 1 and 2 gas and Bisping will tickle him into submission in the 3rd TKO in the 3rd by Bisping!!
alex6674- Bantamweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
careful pinsman! don't you know the only rule of armbar is NEVER GO AGAINST EX-PRIDE FIGHTERS IN A POST?!!!!
btw, Bisping will ko Wandi and break some hearts on here, tko r1!
ok, so i said the same for the hendo fight.........
btw, Bisping will ko Wandi and break some hearts on here, tko r1!
ok, so i said the same for the hendo fight.........
pinsman- Middleweight
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Ha ha notice the sarcastic essence in my posts though??
alex6674- Bantamweight
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yeah bisping by tickle r3! is that with the feathers on his pillow fists?!
pinsman- Middleweight
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Yeh man, I would love to see Bisping do something great for the sake of MMA in this country but then again i'd also love Wandi to get back to his best.
rudeboyben84- Light Heavyweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I dont get the love for Bisping, Chelsea has it 100%, Franklin, Hendo, Wandy are all on a similar level and all a level above Bisping.
Pinsman, who do Brithish people take about Bisping being some sort of Spokesman for British MMA? He hasnt ever been top 10, Daley and Davis are much more likeable, have much bigger wins to their name and are both easily top 10 fighter...
By the end of the year I guarentee there will be more than 2 Brits more highly regarded than Bisping.
If he was Irish I wouldnt hope for him, Slagging Hamill for being Deaf and the shit he talked about Hendo and the countless other times he was came across as an arsehole, coupled with the fact the isnt anywere near as good to watch as other Brits...
Daley, Hardy, Etim, Kelly theres 4 better Brits to watch than Bisping (Etim migth be be Brit that Overtakes him if he gets a big fight this year)
Im with Anfield on Bisping, he really seems to Irritate me. Anyway no harm in insulting ex-pride fighters, I think we have all called most of them shot at one time or another... the rule is just no insulting Wanderlei!
Pinsman, who do Brithish people take about Bisping being some sort of Spokesman for British MMA? He hasnt ever been top 10, Daley and Davis are much more likeable, have much bigger wins to their name and are both easily top 10 fighter...
By the end of the year I guarentee there will be more than 2 Brits more highly regarded than Bisping.
If he was Irish I wouldnt hope for him, Slagging Hamill for being Deaf and the shit he talked about Hendo and the countless other times he was came across as an arsehole, coupled with the fact the isnt anywere near as good to watch as other Brits...
Daley, Hardy, Etim, Kelly theres 4 better Brits to watch than Bisping (Etim migth be be Brit that Overtakes him if he gets a big fight this year)
Im with Anfield on Bisping, he really seems to Irritate me. Anyway no harm in insulting ex-pride fighters, I think we have all called most of them shot at one time or another... the rule is just no insulting Wanderlei!
ChelseaQuinsfan- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Here is a question, if Bisping wasn't English would you like him?
He isn't the right person to get England recognised as a top fighting country. His arrognace exceeds his fighting abilit by too much. I don't have a problem with being cocky but you have to back it up. BJ Penn is the probably the P4P most arrogant fighter out there but he backs it up every time. Last two fights he practically overlooked his opponents and laughed in KenFlo's face but he went out and dominated both guys.
There are a lot of other English fighters that are better, Hardy is better, Daley is better, Etim is better, Pearson is better and I think the English fighter with the most potentiol is infact John Hathaway. He has looked really good so far, destroyed Tom Egan, beat Rick Story who is a tough fighter and dominated Paul Taylor another tough fighter. At this stage of his career he is already taking and beating better fighters than Bisping was at his stage. At that point, Bisping was fighting Josh Haynes and Elvis Sinosic.
He isn't the right person to get England recognised as a top fighting country. His arrognace exceeds his fighting abilit by too much. I don't have a problem with being cocky but you have to back it up. BJ Penn is the probably the P4P most arrogant fighter out there but he backs it up every time. Last two fights he practically overlooked his opponents and laughed in KenFlo's face but he went out and dominated both guys.
There are a lot of other English fighters that are better, Hardy is better, Daley is better, Etim is better, Pearson is better and I think the English fighter with the most potentiol is infact John Hathaway. He has looked really good so far, destroyed Tom Egan, beat Rick Story who is a tough fighter and dominated Paul Taylor another tough fighter. At this stage of his career he is already taking and beating better fighters than Bisping was at his stage. At that point, Bisping was fighting Josh Haynes and Elvis Sinosic.
Once Mohawked Pete- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Tried to post this last night, but my feckin internet's on the blink.
Ben's pretty much said everything I wished to say though. Bisping will never be more than an average fighter at best. His chin is weak and he has very little punch power. The likes of Etim, Kelly, Daley and Hardy all look better fighters (IMO).
See nothing but pain for Mike in this one. Even if Wandy is not the force of old. Could you imagine, Wandy knocking Mike down (as did Kang) and then giving him the same time to get sorted? I can't.
Ben's pretty much said everything I wished to say though. Bisping will never be more than an average fighter at best. His chin is weak and he has very little punch power. The likes of Etim, Kelly, Daley and Hardy all look better fighters (IMO).
See nothing but pain for Mike in this one. Even if Wandy is not the force of old. Could you imagine, Wandy knocking Mike down (as did Kang) and then giving him the same time to get sorted? I can't.
kavik2- Featherweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I know that Bisping isn't the most likeable personality, however I feel his ability is dismissed harshly because of that, IMO he beat Rashad Evans who is top 5 in the light Heavies within UFC, he can't be that bad. Hope wandi wins though.
Once Mohawked Pete- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
kavik2 wrote:I know that Bisping isn't the most likeable personality, however I feel his ability is dismissed harshly because of that, IMO he beat Rashad Evans who is top 5 in the light Heavies within UFC, he can't be that bad. Hope wandi wins though.
Whilst you could argue that, Rashad took Mike down at will in that fight, and let's not forget that he won a dubious decision against Hamill. He has only really faced a couple of decent performers fullstop. Hamill - dubious decision, Evans - loss, Henderson - loss and Leben - win. Kang and Henderson have exposed Bispings biggest frailty in his chin. And for all of Mikes posturing, he spend 90% of the Hendo fight, running away. As I've said, I may be bias, but Mike is 2nd rate, at best, and is behind the likes of Daley, Etim and Hardy IMO.
kavik2- Featherweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Yes Bisping lost to Hamill and yes he has not faced stellar opponents, however it was a very close decision against Rashad who is right up there in the Light Heavies, I am not trying to say he is a top fighter, just feel the criticism can be over the top, probably largely due to his personality, he is a pr%ck at times.
I am a big fan of Etim, and Hardy and Daley are great and exciting to watch, and I do feel that British fighters are getting more of an opportunity because of Bisping ( reagrdless of whether you rate him or like him ) it still takes balls to do what he has done.
I am a big fan of Etim, and Hardy and Daley are great and exciting to watch, and I do feel that British fighters are getting more of an opportunity because of Bisping ( reagrdless of whether you rate him or like him ) it still takes balls to do what he has done.
Once Mohawked Pete- Middleweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
I will always hold my hands up to anyone who climbs in a ring/cage. I'm not some keyboard warrior that has nothing but criticism for those who do though. My objections are more to do with A)- Bispings attitude in earlier fights and B)- the way that he was spoon fed to the British public by UFC. As I've said many times, he is a fighter with little or no punch power and a vulnerable chin. Question - If this had of been the Wandy of old, how long do you think Bisping would last? 15secs? 30secs?
kavik2- Featherweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Bisping against the wandi of old would have been knocked out at the stare down, think we agree in many ways to be honest, I am really not attempting to be argumentative, bisping has no punch power and he can be rocked, however some of the criticism I have seen on here is extremely harsh thats all I am saying. Yes he was given an easy ride to spread UFC in Britain, that wasn't his fault though and now we have a lot of British fighters competing in MMA which is great, yes it would have happened eventually anyway but Bisping competing and doing well in TUF certainly helped. He gave Rashad one of his toughest ever fights and he has now gone in with Hendo, Kang and Wandy in his last 3 fights.
Does anyone know who any of the brits other than Hardy, Daley and Bisping are fighting next? I really rate Etim, not seen anything on who he is fighting next though.
Does anyone know who any of the brits other than Hardy, Daley and Bisping are fighting next? I really rate Etim, not seen anything on who he is fighting next though.
mikeyboybisping- Featherweight
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Re: Bisping's Training Diary
Bisping is seriously underated on here. He's awesome at middleweight only Henderson and Anderson Silva will cause him problems.
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