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    Post  Moose Stuff For Money... Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:55 pm

    Unsurprisingly Dana claims he wasn't impressed...

    “CBS would be out of their mind to put that rinky-dink [Strikeforce] . . . on the air again . . . and without that backing, [promoters] won't have the money to pay [Emelianenko]. …The guy just got his face smashed in by Brett Rogers. Do you know what Brock or Frank Mir and Cain Velasquez would do to Brett Rogers? It's time to bring this guy [Fedor] in, to see Brock Lesnar smash his head.”
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    Post  redmeanie77 Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:17 pm

    Sounds like Dana is back in Fedor bashing mode after a brief hiatus.
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:34 pm

    "what Frank Mir would do to Brett Rogers" lol

    is Dana even a real personality or a comedy persona? Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Bulldog67 Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:55 pm

    Its only clever if Fedor bites, he is just goading him, knowin full well that Fedor and his gang will realise that for many mma only exists within the UFC, so it depends whether Fedor cares about his legacy to the less well informed
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:01 pm

    Dana White is a muppet.

    First of all, rinkydink?? 3.67 million people tuned in to watch the event BEFORE the main event. Main Event figures are expected to be 4.5 million plus!!! Now, bear in mind, Shamrock-Ortiz on free tv did like 6 million but that was the biggest name in the sport(Tito) against a legend who had a pro-wrestling fanbase and that was a UFC show! This is a Russian bloke fighting for a company a lot of people haven't heard of! CBS and SHOWTIME are delighted with those figures! Dana's poor attempt at competing by showing a couple of re-runs got smashed to pieces.

    Secondly, Fedor got his face smashed in?? Did he? He got his nose broken from a jab but he did all the damage.

    Thirdly, Rogers would knock Mir unconscious in about 25 seconds.
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    Post  redmeanie77 Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:07 pm

    Kongo is a better striker than Rogers, do you guys think he will knock Mir out at 107?
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:10 pm

    redmeanie77 wrote:Kongo is a better striker than Rogers, do you guys think he will knock Mir out at 107?

    Maybe. but Rogers is an ogre, good td defense, good defensive ground game, and is an intelligent fighter, Kongo has none of those. And less KO power in his hands. but technially much better.

    of course Mir's camp are always talking about his striking, if he stands he will probably get KOd, if he turns his brain on it will be Mir/Hardonk 2.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:25 pm

    What Chesty said.

    Kongo has better technique but Rogers has more power.

    If Mir gets cocky and tries to stand with Kongo, then yes, i think Kongo will knock him out.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:03 pm

    Anfields5thKing wrote:Dana White is a muppet.

    First of all, rinkydink?? 3.67 million people tuned in to watch the event BEFORE the main event. Main Event figures are expected to be 4.5 million plus!!! Now, bear in mind, Shamrock-Ortiz on free tv did like 6 million but that was the biggest name in the sport(Tito) against a legend who had a pro-wrestling fanbase and that was a UFC show! This is a Russian bloke fighting for a company a lot of people haven't heard of! CBS and SHOWTIME are delighted with those figures! Dana's poor attempt at competing by showing a couple of re-runs got smashed to pieces.

    Secondly, Fedor got his face smashed in?? Did he? He got his nose broken from a jab but he did all the damage.

    Thirdly, Rogers would knock Mir unconscious in about 25 seconds.

    Turns out the Main Event did 5.46 making it the second most viewed fight in North American history after Kimbo-Thompson! Tito vs Ken did 5.3million not 6million as i had previously thought..
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:09 pm

    Fedor's camp are now reporting that his nose was not broken in the fight and that the cut that opened was one caused weeks before in sparring by his brother Aleks!

    So it turns out, Rogers did less than was initially thought!
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    Post  rudeboyben84 Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:17 pm

    Rogers would smash Kongo!! I think Kongo is hugely overhyped! Rogers isnt a trechnical but is a lot bigger, is tough as hell and hits really hard! Rogers 1st round KO if it happened. I give rogers a lot of credit for surviving a round with Fedor because he got Rocked and has on the ground with Fedor and Hung in...

    Dana talks some shit... im in 2 minds about him but its generally the Fedor bashing that turns me agaisnt him. Funny Anfield I think Mir would get KO'd by Rogers... I also think Cain would have his hands full with Rogers, Lesnar could get clipped by Rogers too, I dont think Lesnar would do that well agaisnt Rogers. People think he would GnP him silly but I dont know Rogers TD defence is good, and his groundgame isnt as shite as Kongos say!!

    Dana should stop running his mouth, Fedor is 10X the figher anyone in the UFC is, Mahchida, Shogun, GSP, Anderson. None of them stack up to Fedor who is officially undefeated in 27... Anderson in 11, Machida in 16, GSP in 6!!! Why the Fuck does he not just admit Fedor is the man and he would love to have him under lock and key with a UFC contract... Wait till you read this from Fedor Twitter

    “The UFC contacted us again....”

    UFC contacted Fedor after the fight... Why run your mouth about him and then offer him another contract or get in touch with him? does he think keeping insulting Fedor is the best way to sign him?? Strange move.


    Even Bruce Buffer felt the need to share his opinion...

    “The UFC doesn't need Fedor, Fedor needs the UFC”

    HAHAHAHAHA Bruce Buffer doesnt know his areshole from his earhole... what give him the right to chime in on this? Anyway he is a shite anouncer and generally gets fast forwarded if I have it recorded.

    This Whole Fedor situation annoys me, What doesnt help is that MMA websites suck UFC's dick. Most rank Fedor 3rd p4p despite a winning streak longer than the 2 guys above him combined and more champs on his CV.... Sherdog etc. need to recognise Fedor for what he is and maby Dana would look stupid argueing with a universal opinion of Fedor being the best now and the best of all time.
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    Post  Moose Stuff For Money... Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:21 pm

    You've got to take most of what Dana says with a pinch of salt, I reckon he probably doesn't believe half the shit he spews. As he's the UFC's president it's mostly UFC propoganda so he's just doing his job, in a roundabout arsehole way. If Fedor ever did sign for them watch how quickly he'd change his tune.
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:40 pm

    Fedor has twitter? affraid

    ok now i have to join the thing!
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    Post  Moose Stuff For Money... Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:48 pm

    Anfields5thKing wrote:Turns out the Main Event did 5.46 making it the second most viewed fight in North American history after Kimbo-Thompson! Tito vs Ken did 5.3million not 6million as i had previously thought..

    Cagepotato claims it was the 9th most watched fight in US history, here is the "slightly out of date" list it provides...

    1. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson--- 7.281 million viewers (Aired from 11:27 PM to 11:40 PM)

    2. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock--- 6.524 million viewers (Aired from 9:42 PM to 9:45 PM)

    3. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Seth Petruzelli vs. Kimbo Slice--- 6.451 million viewers (Aired from 11:08 PM to 11:08 PM)

    4. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith--- 5.867 million viewers (Aired from 10.39 PM to 10:57 PM)

    5. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson--- 5.811 million viewers (Aired from 11:29 PM to 12:03 AM)

    6. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Gina Carano vs. Kaitlin Young--- 5.508 million viewers (Aired from 10:09 PM to 10:17 PM)

    7. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill--- 5.475 million viewers (Aired from 10:41 PM to 11:06 PM)

    8. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley--- 5.338 million viewers (Aired from 10:34 PM to 10:44 PM)

    9. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold--- 5.171 million viewers (Aired from 9:45 PM to 9:59 PM)

    10. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson--- 5.154 million viewers (Aired from 10:12 PM to 10:20 PM)

    11. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Kendall Grove vs. Chris Price--- 5.100 million viewers (Aired from 9:13 PM to 9:17 PM)

    12. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Cheick Kongo vs. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic--- 5.098 million viewers (Aired from 9:58 PM to 10:24 PM)

    13. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Marcus Davis vs. Paul Taylor--- 5.023 million viewers (Aired from 9:35 PM to 9:39 PM)

    14. UFC on Spike TV (7/19/2008): Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin--- 4.795 million viewers (Aired from 11:38 PM to 11:38 PM)

    15. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Joey Villasenor vs. Phil Baroni--- 4.348 million viewers (Aired from 9:47 PM to 9:48 PM)

    16. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Jason MacDonald vs. Ed Herman--- 4.297 millon viewers (Aired from 8:44 PM to 8:47 PM)

    17. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara--- 4.204 million viewers (Aired from 9:13 PM to 9:14 PM)

    18. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Matt Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli--- 4.007 million viewers (Aired from 8:09 PM to 8:28 PM)

    19. UFC on Spike TV (7/19/2008): Brandon Vera vs. Reese Andy--- 3.847 million viewers (Aired from 10:58 PM to 11:19 PM)

    20. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Brett Rogers vs. Jon Murphy--- 3.824 million viewers (Aired from 9:26 PM to 9:27 PM)
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    Post  rudeboyben84 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:02 am

    Jesus that is crazy they are off to a flying start now! Kimbo really is crazily popular you can see why UFC would use Kimbo even if it slightly damages their Credibility as the premier league of MMA... Is Kimbo even top 50?

    Anyway a bit off topic but I was on the Sun there and realised under the sports section its now "UFC and MMA" not just an "UFC" section! Small win over the monolopy of UFC Laughing go on the Sun!

    Chesty Im thinking about it and that could be a typical MMAbay story... I really cant see Fedor using Twitter... or Typing in ENGLISH!!! I dont even know what Twitter is, Ive never even seen it on the internet or dont know anyone who uses it!!
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:12 am

    i looked at his page, it looks legit to me ;
    https://twitter.com/femelianenko

    half of his "tweets" are in russian.
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    Post  rudeboyben84 Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:28 am

    Haha UFC look bad now, The public face of the company running his mouth about Fedor while behind closed doors trying to sign him.

    If Strikeforce get Hendo they have some serious star power, I think UFC doesnt need to loose any more big names, from those stats it shows what a big name Hendo is, Gina, Hendo, Fedor, Lawler, Smith, Shields etc.. are all some of the biggest drawing names... Now they could have Arlovski (Another one of the big drawing names)

    Seriously shocked that Cung Le vs Frank Shamrock wasnt on that list! That was a classic and a HUGE fight!!

    What about if Rampage? Any Chance of him going to Strikeforce? He should have a go at being a Heavyweight I think with his Boxing he could really give it a go against anyone not called Fedor, I think the Likes of Rogers or Bigfoot would have trouble with Ramapge on the Feet and he may be powerfull enough to deal with Werdum if he bulked up a bit? Ramapge vs Arlovski at heavy, That would be good. Then again it would probabally be easier for him to go after Mousasi but UFC is were all the Lhw's are.
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    Post  Burrso Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:49 am

    Cung Le vs Frank Shamrock was a awesome fight affraid
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    Post  Bulldog67 Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:53 pm

    cool avatar Burrso Cool
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    Post  Anfields5thKing Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:46 pm

    Moose Stuff For Money... wrote:
    Anfields5thKing wrote:Turns out the Main Event did 5.46 making it the second most viewed fight in North American history after Kimbo-Thompson! Tito vs Ken did 5.3million not 6million as i had previously thought..

    Cagepotato claims it was the 9th most watched fight in US history, here is the "slightly out of date" list it provides...

    1. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Kimbo Slice vs. James Thompson--- 7.281 million viewers (Aired from 11:27 PM to 11:40 PM)

    2. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Tito Ortiz vs. Ken Shamrock--- 6.524 million viewers (Aired from 9:42 PM to 9:45 PM)

    3. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Seth Petruzelli vs. Kimbo Slice--- 6.451 million viewers (Aired from 11:08 PM to 11:08 PM)

    4. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Robbie Lawler vs. Scott Smith--- 5.867 million viewers (Aired from 10.39 PM to 10:57 PM)

    5. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson--- 5.811 million viewers (Aired from 11:29 PM to 12:03 AM)

    6. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Gina Carano vs. Kaitlin Young--- 5.508 million viewers (Aired from 10:09 PM to 10:17 PM)

    7. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Michael Bisping vs. Matt Hamill--- 5.475 million viewers (Aired from 10:41 PM to 11:06 PM)

    8. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Jake Shields vs. Paul Daley--- 5.338 million viewers (Aired from 10:34 PM to 10:44 PM)

    9. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Gina Carano vs. Kelly Kobold--- 5.171 million viewers (Aired from 9:45 PM to 9:59 PM)

    10. EliteXC on CBS (10/4/08): Andrei Arlovski vs. Roy Nelson--- 5.154 million viewers (Aired from 10:12 PM to 10:20 PM)

    11. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Kendall Grove vs. Chris Price--- 5.100 million viewers (Aired from 9:13 PM to 9:17 PM)

    12. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Cheick Kongo vs. Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic--- 5.098 million viewers (Aired from 9:58 PM to 10:24 PM)

    13. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Marcus Davis vs. Paul Taylor--- 5.023 million viewers (Aired from 9:35 PM to 9:39 PM)

    14. UFC on Spike TV (7/19/2008): Anderson Silva vs. James Irvin--- 4.795 million viewers (Aired from 11:38 PM to 11:38 PM)

    15. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Joey Villasenor vs. Phil Baroni--- 4.348 million viewers (Aired from 9:47 PM to 9:48 PM)

    16. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Jason MacDonald vs. Ed Herman--- 4.297 millon viewers (Aired from 8:44 PM to 8:47 PM)

    17. UFC on Spike TV (9/8/2007): Houston Alexander vs. Alessio Sakara--- 4.204 million viewers (Aired from 9:13 PM to 9:14 PM)

    18. UFC on Spike TV (10/10/2006): Matt Hamill vs. Seth Petruzelli--- 4.007 million viewers (Aired from 8:09 PM to 8:28 PM)

    19. UFC on Spike TV (7/19/2008): Brandon Vera vs. Reese Andy--- 3.847 million viewers (Aired from 10:58 PM to 11:19 PM)

    20. EliteXC on CBS (5/31/2008): Brett Rogers vs. Jon Murphy--- 3.824 million viewers (Aired from 9:26 PM to 9:27 PM)

    That's the same list i was looking at before. Apparently those are incorrect. Bisping vs Hamill did terrible business and viewers though. There's no way it drew that many watchers.

    And as mentioned, Cung Le vs Shamrock did massive numbers, so i'm paying no attention to that list.

    Hammill vs Petruzelli?? Please!
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    Post  manschesthair_utd Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:00 am

    i think this is appropriate Laughing

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    Post  payneNglory1 Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05 am

    Laughing

    Thats cool
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    Post  Albion_Oakley Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:28 am

    What a prick that man is. If you dont want to promote your rival organisation and their best fighter, DO NOT MENTION THEM. UFC is the biggest MMA organization in the world as well as the most watched. If the casual UFC fan never hears about fedor or strikeforce, they wont be able to watch them.

    Sorry for using a Pro wrestling analogy, but this is like when WCW sent Bill Goldberg onto a TV talkshow to ask Stonecold Steve Austin for a fight. It Gave WWF and Austin publicity in a ratings war WCW were already winning anyway, and made Goldberg look like the lesser star as he was doing the chasing.

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