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    A personal message to 2brutal (UFC on Fox spoilers)

    Post  Sheldan on Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:58 am

    I present you with several statements 2brutal made over the last few months regarding Cain VS JDS:

















    I now present you with an image from tonight's fight.



    Here is your new avatar 2brutal



    That will be all.
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    Post  Ginginho on Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:19 am

    Laughing Laughing Laughing

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    Post  2brutal on Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:24 am

    haha

    in fairness when you were leaning towards cain as your prediction shows yesterday i put i wont be posting any past comments but fair enough mate i got it wrong jds is a beast
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    Post  redmeanie77 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:43 am














    Ouch Sheldan, you didnt hold back!!! lol

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    Post  2brutal on Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:52 am

    karma is a bitch dont worry
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    Post  Mannpagejackson on Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:27 am

    Wow!!! Dint see that coming. I was heavily against jds aswell, but just watched primetime and event this morning, and i still like cain. He'll be back. But that shot right in the temple is on another planet, bith throw at the same time, jds spots cains shot and delivers that, even if cain wasnt knocked out, a shot to the temple destroys your bearings and sense of awareness. Just perfect. I was wrong, badly wrong, but hell it was impressive. Also, nice that the uk got bendo and johnson fights. A 3 round war and another cracking ko. Enjoyed all 3!!
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    Post  Sheldan on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:20 pm

    redmeanie77 wrote:Ouch Sheldan, you didnt hold back!!! lol

    Haha, it's all just banter Very Happy
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    Post  Once Mohawked Pete on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:23 pm

    I was bitterly disappointed with the fight last night, I've been one of Cains biggest supporters on these pages, but just got caught last night. No excuses, JDS started the brighter and that shot would have stopped a lot of the big guys. not so much in terms of pure power, but where it landed. To give JDS his due, he gave Cain no chance at all of recovery. He's a very likeable fighter is JDS, and I don't think many have a bad word to say about the guy.

    I still think that Cain is the future of the HW division, and I can see him regaining his title, but, it ain't going to be easy.

    On a lighter note, I think I got all but 2 results wrong last night.......I am definitely the man, when it comes to predictions.
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    Re: A personal message to 2brutal (UFC on Fox spoilers)

    Post  Mryzyz on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:35 pm

    Cain looked out of sorts. He came in flabby with a cowed demeanour and his movement was noticeably sluggish. I don't think he was %100.

    Not complaining though, I like JDS a lot more than Cain. Maybe we should all wait until a fighter has beaten at least one elite level opponent first before we discuss if he is the new Fedor in future? just a thought

    Also this I believe greatly increases Overeems' chances of winning the belt. Stylistically JDS is a much better fight for him.
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    Post  efils_god on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:42 pm

    Mryzyz wrote:Cain looked out of sorts. He came in flabby with a cowed demeanour and his movement was noticeably sluggish. I don't think he was %100.

    I agree with this, he looked out of sorts and there was talk of an injury before the fight. Not making excuses though, JDS deserves his title and is a very humble and positive ambassador for the sport, just like Cain. I hope we get to see a rematch someday soon. Overeem-JDS would be very interesting if he can get past Brock.

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    Post  Once Mohawked Pete on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:46 pm

    Mryzyz wrote:Cain looked out of sorts. He came in flabby with a cowed demeanour and his movement was noticeably sluggish. I don't think he was %100.

    Not complaining though, I like JDS a lot more than Cain. Maybe we should all wait until a fighter has beaten at least one elite level opponent first before we discuss if he is the new Fedor in future? just a thought

    Also this I believe greatly increases Overeems' chances of winning the belt. Stylistically JDS is a much better fight for him.

    One bad fight does not a bad fighter make.

    Cain will comeback, he has too much in the locker for him not to. I don't think that JDS was the wrong fight for him, but, as I've said before, I would have been a lot happier if Cain had a 'warm up' fight first. Again, not making excuses, JDS started the brighter and caught him. I still think that JDS beats Overoid.
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:49 pm

    hahaha brilliant lol
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:50 pm

    Mryzyz wrote:Cain looked out of sorts. He came in flabby with a cowed demeanour and his movement was noticeably sluggish. I don't think he was %100.

    Not complaining though, I like JDS a lot more than Cain. Maybe we should all wait until a fighter has beaten at least one elite level opponent first before we discuss if he is the new Fedor in future? just a thought

    Also this I believe greatly increases Overeems' chances of winning the belt. Stylistically JDS is a much better fight for him.

    I agree with all of this

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    Post  thebadgersbits on Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:19 pm

    I dont agree that cain should of had a warm up fight if you have a belt you should fight your number 1 opponents.JDS is only going to get better imo so i would not be surprised if he retains the belt,,,,would love to see him against the reem tho in a stand up war.
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    Post  sunthunder on Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:55 pm

    I favoured Velasquez marginally coming into this fight, but the closer the fight got, the more I thought Dos Santos had a better than credited chance at landing a significant shot at some point in the fight.

    Watching Cain against Lesnar, there's more than a few instances of Velasquez having his head stuck in the same position whilst throwing combinations. Technically, I think Cain throws cleaner punches than Dos Santos but his sense of timing and distance isn't in the same ball park.

    Irrespective of that, I thought Cain had an edge because his skills make him a better pressure fighter than Dos Santos and even if he couldn't score clean takedowns, he'd still be able to chop away at Dos Santos's legs and press him against the cage.

    Lol at Dana throwing a hissy fit and tossing them both under the bus in his post fight comments. Horrible way to handle the situation. Essentially reduced the night to implying former champion fought like and idiot and the new champion has no cardio. Awful message to send out to any prospective new UFC viewers.
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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:35 pm

    What was the hissy fit, sunthunder?


    Cain is strikingly similar to Big Foot IMO, both brilliant ground games, decent stand up but unfortunately they've been blessed with huge ass heads so really it was only a matter of time before JDS connected. I agree with Dana, why didn't Cain try and take him down from the start? I understand he was trying to wear JDS down and maybe set up the takedown but there was hardly any Edgar-like footwork like he showed against Nog, and standing in front of JDS for that long there's only one outcome.


    Payne is it true that 58 minutes, 56 seconds of the hour long US broadcast was NOT a fight Laughing that's just stupid. On the international broadcasts we got to see the Clay Guida fight before the main event and Damarques Johnson fight after it!
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:21 pm

    sunthunder wrote:Lol at Dana throwing a hissy fit and tossing them both under the bus in his post fight comments. Horrible way to handle the situation. Essentially reduced the night to implying former champion fought like and idiot and the new champion has no cardio. Awful message to send out to any prospective new UFC viewers.

    I seen that too If I was the Fertitta's I would get White off network TV ASAP It was embarrassing his behaviour It was obvious he wanted Cain to win from the get go so he could exploit....I mean expand in to the Mexican market but come on stay objective on TV FFS. Embarassed
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    Post  sunthunder on Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:28 pm

    Just his general attitude, the manner in which he questioned Cains game plan and being visibly annoyed by the outcome of the fight, it was deeply unprofessional.

    Dana implying that Cain just kind of lackadaisically came out to stand with Dos Santos is just naive. How many times do you see a fighter fire off multiple takedown attempts in the first minute of a fight?
    Dos Santos is hardly the kind of fighter you can just shoot double legs from at a distance without fear of being punished for failing. Cain really wasn't doing anything horribly wrong, he was rightly trying to set up the takedown but Dos Santos saw his chance and took it.

    I understand Dana's pissed from a business perspective that his Mexican-American posterboy got smashed, but he handled it in a way that under-mined his own product. The outcome of the fight can't be helped, but damaging the image of both the fighters to the casual fan?

    Instead of bemoaning any supposed flaws in Velasquez's game plan and saying Dos Santos has bad cardio, he should have just been praising Dos Santos. Amazingly Dana managed to take the shine off the UFC having a young, devastating KO artist as their new heavyweight champion.
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:41 pm

    Very true I'm pretty sure White has done this with someone else before can not think of who It was though and after his tirade the casual fans who tuned in will believe the result was a fluke and JDS is a modern day Buster Douglas.
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    Post  Mryzyz on Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:07 pm

    PR Gimp malfunction in studio 1
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    Post  payneNglory1 on Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:23 pm

    The_Axe_Emperor wrote:


    Payne is it true that 58 minutes, 56 seconds of the hour long US broadcast was NOT a fight Laughing that's just stupid. On the international broadcasts we got to see the Clay Guida fight before the main event and Damarques Johnson fight after it!

    Yep they just had Brock,Dana and the host,Curt Menefee building up the fight for the first 30 odd minutes,then it was the fight and then back to them talking about it for the rest of the hour.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:41 am

    redmeanie77 wrote:



    I think Dana is right, I mean seriously, he is speaking from experience having been in the cage on so many occasions against guys with big KO power..........no............wait..........no that's right, he hasn't a fucking clue what he's talking about and he should keep his mouth firmly shut and not slag off the top two HWs in his company.

    It's clear that he wanted Cain to win, as did I, but he needs to accept that he lost to a better fighter on the night.

    Wonder how pissed he'll get when Bones, Edgar and GSP lose their belts.

    Chalk another title up for Blackhouse. Bet that pisses Dana off as well.
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    Post  Sheldan on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:07 am

    Dana saying what Cain's game plan should have been just reminds me of this video, I wonder if we'll hear Dana say that he never told Cain what to do.

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    Post  redmeanie77 on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:35 am















    I think he is just pissed Cain got beat so easily and so quick, he needed a longer fight than that. And im not that sold on Latino Market for Cain, Brazil is getting huge now and JDS will be perfect star to pick up from Anderson when his bubble will burst soon.

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