Lesnar v Nelson?

I could tell you this for pretty much 100 percent certainty Brock Lesnar wants that fight. I mean, he has asked for that fight and I would presume at some point that fight is probably going to happen. I think the idea...Dana -- as of a couple of days ago at least -- had not talked to Lesnar yet, but he was planning on doing it. I think the first fight they're probably going to offer [Brock] is a third fight with Frank Mir.

Bryan Alvarez of Wrestling Observer/Figure Four Online

i have this feeling lesnar will get bored of mma, he comes accross as someone who wants to be number 1 and if he isnt wont be interested.

Damn i wanted to see Mir-Brock 3.

Give Herring a rematch I say.

I'd back Sylvia to beat Nog and Mir and probably back him to beat Brock too. If he could stuff the initial takedown which isn't all that difficult, i think it'd go similar to Sylvia- Pudz.

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:I'd back Sylvia to beat Nog and Mir and probably back him to beat Brock too. If he could stuff the initial takedown which isn't all that difficult, i think it'd go similar to Sylvia- Pudz.

Brock isn't going to turn purple after a few minutes though lol. I'd back Brock to beat Sylvia. Sylvia doesn't have the tools that Cain has

Timmeh does hit pretty hard though and we all know how Brock feels about getting punched in the face.

I've always thought Sylvia still has some relevance at heavyweight. I'm quite surprised a lot of people held the Mercer fight against him to the extent they did. The vast vast majority of heavyweights would be KTFO by Mercer if they came in 40lbs overweight and threw a lazy low kick.

But to Sylvia's credit, in the context of MMA he can actually use his reach well, which a lot of taller fighters never really get the hang of. Plus when taken down he actually ties people up well. I think he'd beat Carwin actually. Not sure about Lesnar, don't know if Sylvia has the mobility to keep up the sort of onslaught Cain was able to, but Lesnar's takedowns aren't unstoppable and Sylvia hits hard.

Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:Timmeh does hit pretty hard though and we all know how Brock feels about getting punched in the face.

Exactly. And also as Sunthunder has said he is a tall fighter who knows how to fight tall.


Would he have a reach advantage against Brock though, i know Brocks reach is something like 81"?

i hope brock is training in standup. i have a feeling though if lesner does train stand up he wont use it and just try and get the takedown.

Brock may have a similar reach to Tim, but what people often fail to factor in when talking about reach is that Brocks head is leel with Tim's shoulders, so he can use the full extent of his reach...
whereas Brock has to reach up an entire foot to reach Tim's chin.



but it would not even be a real contest in striking so its pointless talking about it anyways

I think either guy could take this one , so its a good matchup

Nelson sould be an easy win for Lesnar, Physically he has nothing to stop Lesnar putting him on his back and is giving up a colossal reach advantage as well as power, speed etc..

Ive always said I think Nelson is a solid mid ranked heavy, he is about on Monsons level. Good but will never be a worldbeater. Perhaps now he is going to replace Gonzaga as UFC's gatekeeper.

Dont like that Brock is going after such a big underdog but fair enough maby he want to build himself back up a bit slower because clearly he need to work on some things.

I say fight Nelson and if he wins fight Nog.
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As far as Sylvia goes Sylvia is listed as an 80" reach and Lesnar is 81" though with half a foot in height Tim would beat him to the punch... I dont give Sylvia much of a chance though, honestly if Couture can do it Lesnar will be able to do it, Tim hasnt improved or evolved since then if anything he has gotten older and fatter.... Brock to GnP him unless he walks into a Knee to the head! and craps his pants that is!

I just wonder, Nelson hits harder than Cain. If he connects with that big right, Brock could crumble.

Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:I just wonder, Nelson hits harder than Cain. If he connects with that big right, Brock could crumble.

Would have to go very similarly to the Schaub fight for Roy to win. If it doesn't Lesnar will be able to put Nelson on the ground and keep him there, he is definately no Cain Velasqquez.

I wonder what Nelson is like off his back. He's probably not the most flexible or explosive with that gut in the way.

Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:I wonder what Nelson is like off his back. He's probably not the most flexible or explosive with that gut in the way.

if lesnar stuffs a takedown and nelson ends up on top he will be hard to shift.

Nelson is only 265lbs, Brock has thrown 450lbs Wrestlers about like ragdolls, I dont see Nelson being hard to shift from top position at all.

Nelson is just about the weakest Hw, there isnt many less Physical and if you have grappled with someone much stronger than you you will know even how hard it can be to execute things like a Kimura if you can move their arm etc..

Nelson's shot at winning this is on the feet I reckon and I honestly see Brock winning it there Nelson isnt exactly Cain Valesques on the feet apart from the Schaub fight he has never impressed me standing.

i couldnt imagine what would happen if lesnar lost the fight, i mean where would he go from there?

rudeboyben84 wrote:Nelson is only 265lbs, Brock has thrown 450lbs Wrestlers about like ragdolls, I dont see Nelson being hard to shift from top position at all.

Nelson is just about the weakest Hw, there isnt many less Physical and if you have grappled with someone much stronger than you you will know even how hard it can be to execute things like a Kimura if you can move their arm etc..

Nelson's shot at winning this is on the feet I reckon and I honestly see Brock winning it there Nelson isnt exactly Cain Valesques on the feet apart from the Schaub fight he has never impressed me standing.

The only 450lb wrestler was the big show, who is a great worker and helps everyone trying to lift him by jumping into each move and making it more about momentum than strength.

If Nelson gets that belly on top of Lesnar, it's over.

You're ridiculously anti-Nelson! He has great hands!