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    George 'The Chameleon' St. Pierre and his amazing "Ape" Technique.....

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    George 'The Chameleon' St. Pierre and his amazing "Ape" Technique.....

    Post  Gibmeister on Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:54 am

    I truly believe that GSP is a true master of adapting his game plan for each and every opponent ever since his shock defeat against Matt Serra back in spring of '07.

    UFC 74: Comeback fight against Kos he stuck and moved keeping his hands high and when he connected he went in for an against the cage TD, never kept still, kept moving on the ground and stuffed any wrestling by Kos (of course not to bothered by Kos stand up).

    UFC 79: Matt Hughes, the only way to fight Hughes is to keep a safe distance also. Even though (self proclaimed by Hughes) struggles with his striking, he sets up his take-downs with his hands and feet. Both top draw wrestlers, GSP fought Kos and Hughes differently.

    UFC 83: Serra wasn't going to catch him twice! He punched and kneed the crap out of him in much closer range until he just run our of gas.

    UFC 87: GSP knew Fitch is game is to "amateur wrestle" stay chest on chest, smother and hope to just stay on top, without any real effort to improve striking/sub position (Doesn't The Blanket Fitch do that well for the full 3 rounds????).. GSP is not an amateur wrestler but an MMA wrestler (which I think he and to a lesser degree (dare I say Bisping) does well, looking to GnP, sub and break from the ground hug to improve position and he adapted so well he just knew how to upperhand that type of one dimensional (and hugely effective) Fitch game. Brilliantly....

    UFC 94: Of course Phil Nurse and his magic tub of grease helped slightly, but that being said, unlike the list above, GSP saw a big cardio problem with Penn, so he go on top, stayed active from his guard and wore the poor Penn into submitting with nothing in the tank.

    UFC 100 & 111 will both be famous for 5 rounds of completely squashing any strengths/advantages that either Alves and Hardy had as soon as the bell rang...which is their great striking! Alves has a brown belt apparently in BJJ but good job he hits like a train as he has never shown any defense or offence in it. In fact some of his defeats have come from just average BJJ fighters subbing him in random chokes. (Spencer Fisher triangle??). So instead of a stick and move and risk it he pulled a Fitch and sent us to sleep....

    Anyway, the point is..... vs Koscheck I think GSP will stand, sprawl then punch, kick, knee, slap for a lot longer than recent history has shown just to avoid getting into an amateur wrestling bout which he could easily meet his match in.

    Prediction GSP standing KO slap bang in the middle of the Octagon!!

    Any one think any different? Are we just going to see a bore-fest neutralising each others wrestling til GSP or Kos wins on points? Ahhh, I hope not.



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    Re: George 'The Chameleon' St. Pierre and his amazing "Ape" Technique.....

    Post  rudeboyben84 on Tue Oct 26, 2010 12:52 pm

    GSP didnt bore me against Alves, he landed some great shots on the feet and scored some cracking TD's.

    I agree, I think he is going to KO KOS, KOS thinkgs he can stand with people, and although he got sparked by Thiago I think he still has faith in his standup.

    I dont buy into him being able to hang with GSP wrestling wise so I think he will take his chances on the feet. And if GSP can give Alves trouble on the feet I think he is a cert to KO KOS.... Heres hoping anyway!

    He has been putting the work in with Freddie roach so I think your money with him changing his style here

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    Post  Sly Uses on Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:11 pm

    i liked the Alves and Hardy fights..


    I think GSP is just going to take him down again personally

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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:00 pm

    GSP doesn't have the power to KO Kos, comical to think he does. I doubt he's ever knocked ANYONE out in his career. He has 7 TKO wins, only 1 in the last 4 years and 3 in the last 6 years, 2 of which came against much smaller men in Sherk and Serra.

    Kos has lost ONCE by KO, same as GSP and Kos was never actually out or even unable to defend himself. He was clearly pulling guard as the ref stopped the fight. He hits MUCH harder than GSP as well. GSP is a better striker and he could outpoint Kos, but he's not knocking him out. There's a far greater chance that Kos knocks GSP out.

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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:04 pm

    Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:GSP doesn't have the power to KO Kos, comical to think he does. I doubt he's ever knocked ANYONE out in his career. He has 7 TKO wins, only 1 in the last 4 years and 3 in the last 6 years, 2 of which came against much smaller men in Sherk and Serra.

    Kos has lost ONCE by KO, same as GSP and Kos was never actually out or even unable to defend himself. He was clearly pulling guard as the ref stopped the fight. He hits MUCH harder than GSP as well. GSP is a better striker and he could outpoint Kos, but he's not knocking him out. There's a far greater chance that Kos knocks GSP out.




    Kos was CLEARLY out in the Thiago fight! Comical to claim otherwise, look at his eyes.

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    Post  the_king on Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:07 pm

    what are the odds for a koscheck to win via stoppage im backing this bet.

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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:49 pm

    The_Axe_Emperor wrote:
    Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:GSP doesn't have the power to KO Kos, comical to think he does. I doubt he's ever knocked ANYONE out in his career. He has 7 TKO wins, only 1 in the last 4 years and 3 in the last 6 years, 2 of which came against much smaller men in Sherk and Serra.

    Kos has lost ONCE by KO, same as GSP and Kos was never actually out or even unable to defend himself. He was clearly pulling guard as the ref stopped the fight. He hits MUCH harder than GSP as well. GSP is a better striker and he could outpoint Kos, but he's not knocking him out. There's a far greater chance that Kos knocks GSP out.




    Kos was CLEARLY out in the Thiago fight! Comical to claim otherwise, look at his eyes.


    You should go watch the fight. He was never out. He was stunned, recovered, pulled guard and was wrong stopped. Never out.

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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:06 pm

    I watched it before i posted that previous comment, and i'm watching it again now, i've seen nothing to change my mind.


    Pulling guard? He puts his hand up as if to say "No, stop!"

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    Post  manschesthair_utd on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:11 pm

    wasnt Kos kocked out very early in his career aswell??
    i remember him dominating the fight and then getting sparked and i was like "hah" Laughing

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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:15 pm

    manschesthair_utd wrote:wasnt Kos kocked out very early in his career aswell??
    i remember him dominating the fight and then getting sparked and i was like "hah" Laughing



    Don't think so. He's lost four times, two decisions (to GSP and Alves) one KO (to Thiago) and one submission (a rear naked choke with 22 seconds left against Drew Fickett).


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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:16 pm

    The_Axe_Emperor wrote:I watched it before i posted that previous comment, and i'm watching it again now, i've seen nothing to change my mind.


    Pulling guard? He puts his hand up as if to say "No, stop!"


    Complete and utter shite! Hysterical attempt.

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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:18 pm

    manschesthair_utd wrote:wasnt Kos kocked out very early in his career aswell??
    i remember him dominating the fight and then getting sparked and i was like "hah" Laughing


    He got subbed by Drew Fickett after mauling him. Well not subbed, he went to sleep instead of tapping.


    The Alves fight gives an example of Kos's chin. Alves hit him with some incredible shots and he took them, got rocked a few times but wasn't close to being finished. Kos has a very very good chin.

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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:27 pm

    Michael_Bisping_Is_A_Cunt wrote:
    The_Axe_Emperor wrote:I watched it before i posted that previous comment, and i'm watching it again now, i've seen nothing to change my mind.


    Pulling guard? He puts his hand up as if to say "No, stop!"


    Complete and utter shite! Hysterical attempt.




    Well if that's your reply then theres no point even debating with you. Watch the fight and you'll see Kos' eyes rolled back into his head, take 2/3 seconds just for him to realise where Thiago is.

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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:37 pm

    And?? Then he puts his hand to try and pull Thiago into his guard as Thiago steps forward! He's never out! Have your eyes roll and not knowing where you are for a split second(nothing like 2-3 seconds because the ref was on top of him after about 2 seconds) is not being out.

    This is a knockout:



    This is not:


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    Post  The_Axe_Emperor on Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:45 pm

    I appreciate you going through the trouble of finding those videos Cool I was wondering what video that was there, Diego Sanchez Laughing ?? Poor quality video by the way, i have it on HD on my laptop so you don't need to be linking me up Wink


    I can't believe you're even disputing this stoppage. He did NOT pull guard, "hysterical" to even claim that that's what he was doing, he was in no mans land and Thiago walked up to him nonchalantly and could've inflicted more damage had it not been for a great stoppage. I agreed with the stoppage, most everyone else did, even Joe Rogan did...


    Anyway, we're going off topic. Does GSP have the power to KO Kos? He's a professional fighter, will be wearing small gloves and has been training with Freddie Roach for quite some time. Therefore the answer to that question is a resounding 'yes'.

    WILL GSP KO Kos is another question entirely, and i think the answer is 'no' simply because i don't think GSP will risk standing with him.

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