ufc heavyweights

iv been thinking since mir v carwin and carwin v lesnar a whole load of what ifs.

ill start with lesnar what if he loses to cain his record will be 5-2 not that impressive for a former ufc champ, will he faid away or come back stronger i have doubts about his mentallity to a loss.

carwin - when he returns if he loses thats 2 straight a bit like brett rogers in strikeforce, will he have what it takes to re coupe and get back into the mix.

mir - if he manages to lose against cro cop he will be 1-3 in the last 4 fights will he then fade away i know there has been talk of him dropping to 205 but i dont think he could.

big nog - this guy is as tough as bjj's get but when his return does happen and he loses that would leave his record like mir's 1-3.

im not saying i want these guys to lose though.

If Brock loses i think he'll call it a day, as will Carwin if he loses and probably Nog too.

Mir on the other hand will be around no matter what for another few years i think.

really you think brock will go after so much hype. i can understand nog going.

ging back on carwin his next opponent i think is roy nelson who will stand with him he should win that probably ko him.

Yea i just dont think Brock is in it for the long run tbh, he looks like he loves being on top and winning but i think if you take his belt away and all the hype i doubt he'd like it as much.

It will be a sad day for MMA when Nogueira retires. Him, CroCop and Fedor, as well as all the old PRIDE boys like Wanderlei, Gomi, Hendo etc. I will need to be comforted through it all when they all decide to hang up their gloves

axe i dont know if you have or do watch pro wrestling but the pride guys kind of have this cult status like ecw had. you say you will be sad when they go the guys in pride wrandi is 33, big nog 33, cro cop 35 all not that old even fedor is 33 i think. but do you not think going to war each fight in pride like they did might have shortened their careers.

big nog looks like he is 60 lol. do you also get the feeling dana is not pushing the pride guys so much and would love one of them to lose a few fights just to give them the boot.

"but do you not think going to war each fight in pride like they did might have shortened their careers. "

That's exactly what i'm getting at



They're all still quite young in an MMA sense but just look at how bloody ugly the guys are. They've all been beaten up so much that they do look, as you say, twice their age. In the Nog- Couture fight Randy was thirteen years older than Minotauro, but it looked the complete opposite!!



"do you also get the feeling dana is not pushing the pride guys so much and would love one of them to lose a few fights just to give them the boot"


As for that, no, i don't get that feeling at all. Theres absolutely no way the PRIDE boys will get cut. Some of the piss poor PRIDE guys like Herring are lucky to still be around and probably are still around because of their past. Others like CroCop, Wand, Nog, Shogun, Rampage etc, i dont think will ever be in danger of getting a pink slip. They're simply too important to the company as they have massive fan bases.

Can you even begin to imagine Wandi fighting on crappy smaller promotions? Not gonna happen.

If Brock gets beaten by Cain, he'll give it one more go at getting back to the title but if he loses again he'll quit.