UFC 146,The Heavyweights

Thought this event needed it's own thread for the build up and aftermath of this stacked card.

UFC 146:DOS SANTOS VS MIR

Saturday, May 26, 2012,at the MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada

Facebook prelims start at 6:30 pm EST,11:30am GMT
FX prelims start at 8pm EST,1am GMT
Main card starts at 10 pm EST,3am GMT

fight card

Plus/minus = fights currently won/lost in a row in ANY MMA promotion

UFC Heavyweight Championship : Junior dos Santos(champ - 8-0 UFC)+9 vs. Frank Mir(14-5 UFC)+3

HW: Cain Velasquez(7-1 UFC)-1 vs. Antonio Silva (UFC debut,3-2 Strikeforce)-1

HW: Roy Nelson (3-3 UFC)-1 vs. Dave Herman (1-1 UFC) -1

HW: Shane del Rosario(UFC Debut,3-0 strikeforce)+11 vs. Stipe Miocic(2-0 UFC)+8

HW: Lavar Johnson(2-0 UFC)+2 vs. Stefan Struve(7-3 UFC)+2

Preliminary Card (FX Channel)


FW: Diego Brandao(1-0 UFC) +4 vs. Darren Elkins(3-1 UFC) +2

LW: Edson Barboza(4-0 UFC)+10 vs. Jamie Varner(1-1 UFC)+2

MW: Jason Miller(0-2 UFC) -1 vs. C.B. Dollaway(5-4 UFC)-2

WW: Dan Hardy(4-4 UFC)-4 vs. Duane Ludwig(4-3 UFC)-1


Preliminary Card (Facebook)


LW: Paul Sass(2-0 UFC)+12 vs. Jacob Volkmann(5-2 UFC)+5

LHW: Glover Teixeira(UFC debut)+15 vs. Kyle Kingsbury(4-2 UFC) -1

FW: Mike Brown(1-3 UFC)+1 vs. Daniel Pineda(2-0 UFC) +7

Such a shame there will be a loser in SDR-Miocic fight both guys have what it takes to get to top of this division. I dont know who im gonna pick for this fight.


I watched Cain hitting pads in the media workout today, the guy is still the scariest HW in the Division and he's gonna maul Bigfoot. Think of this fight going same way as Rothwell fight.


Herman-Nelson will be a very fun fight, and Struve fight will be KOTN or SOTN for sure.


I think Mir will do better than most people think, but i still see JDS winning but he i think he will be tested unlike his previous fights.


Diego Brandao i cant wait to see again, Varner is getting his head kicked off, Miller and Hardy will both be cut after this event.


Sass will get exposed and I cant wait to see all hype surrounding Teixiera how he'll fare in UFC.

Still looking forward even though It's lost it's luster due to all the pull outs.

Even though I fully expect Mir to do his uncanny imitation of a wilting flower Saturday against JDS I've got this funny feeling he might pull a Sub out of the bag. I expect Cain to run through Big Foot and I expect Roy to beat Pee Wee too. I really hope the crash hasn't took too much out of SDR If he is 100% I think he beats Miocic, Shane is extremely well rounded.

Really Hope Brandao beats Elkins because he is boring and robbed a decision from Michi last year so excuse my bias.

Looking forward to Glover's debut It's been a long time coming he could be a dark horse in the LHW division. It will be interesting to see how Sass & Barboza cope against 2 good wrestlers in Varner and Volkman I think both could in for some surprises this weekend.

SDR-Miocic is a hard fight to pick,I would of preferred for them not to have faced each other yet personally,but since they have,I'm swayed to go for Miocic,purely because I don't know what toll the accident has had on SDR and I'm not sure how he's going to handle being out for over a year.

I've got Varner vs Barboza down as FOTN.
I think Barboza wins a comfortable UD or gets the stoppage late in the 2nd or 3rd,but i think alot of people are not giving Varner enough respect,he's a bit of a dick IMO,but he's not a bad fighter and he's definitely hard to stop.

Really hope Hardy get's the win,but I'm not so confident in that,since Ludwig is the better version of what Hardy likes to do.
I think Dan really needs to mix his striking up with takedowns to beat Ludwig.(he doesn't have to worry about being choked out by bang)

I can't wait to see Glover in the UFC,he was one of my predictions for the year,Glover goes all year without losing in the UFC,so i'm praying he doesn't get those UFC debut jitters and just steam rolls kingsbury.

Anyone know who's favourite for the Lavar/Struve fight? I know Struve was the underdog against Hunt.
I rewatched Lavar vs Barry today, and realised how out of his depth Lavar looked on the ground, and that was against Barry ffs! If the odds are decent on Struve, I may consider a big bet on him. I definately see it Struve by submission, although having said that this is the heavyweights, and if Lavar lands a big shot, it'll probably be all she wrote.

Miocic vs SDR could go either way, i genuinely dont know who to pick, might just flip a coin to be honest.

Nelson should beat the very overrated fighter that is Dave Herman.(Should add him to the overrated section on the other thread). Although, Nelson has looked quite awful lately to be honest.

JDS and Cain will probably win, though i think it'll be a lot more difficult than people think.

My accumulator for Saturday will be: JDS, Cain, Nelson, Johnson, Brandao, Barboza, Hardy. From what I've seen, Struve is the favourite in his fight, so the Johnson bet will dramatically increase the value.

Hardy is a big risk for an accumulator i wouldnt back him there.

redmeanie77 wrote:Hardy is a big risk for an accumulator i wouldnt back him there.

A 6 man accumulator would have rubbish odds so I thought Hardy was the most likely to win out of all the other fights left on the card to make it a seven man accumulator. Any fight I've missed out that you think would be less risky?

William Hill have finally got round to adding all the fights for Saturday so I just checked my accumulator and it is still shit odds with the Hardy fight, 10/1 it is.

My accumulator for saturday... its unlikely but at the same time quite possible!

JDS to win by KO - 4/11
Struve by submission - 6/4
Barboza to win on points 2/1
Velasquez to win on points 4/1

50/1 accumulator!

Mayhem looked absolutely awful, CB Dalloway would be nice pick for an accumulator though i havent looked at any odds.

p4pnumber_1 wrote:My accumulator for saturday... its unlikely but at the same time quite possible!

JDS to win by KO - 4/11
Struve by submission - 6/4
Barboza to win on points 2/1
Velasquez to win on points 4/1

50/1 accumulator!

Not bad, Cain winning by stoppage and Struve getting knocked out is probably only thing stopping you winning a 50/1 bet. Hope you win.

Here's the odds for outright winners and the individual odds you can get on Cain-Big Foot and JDS-Mir, Mir to win my submission at 6/1 is brilliant odds in my opinion, anyone who is backing Mir to win should jump on that bet. Anyone know if there is a UK bookmaker that provides individual bets for all UFC fights? Bored of William Hill just offering individual bets on the 2 main fights.

p4pnumber_1 wrote:My accumulator for saturday... its unlikely but at the same time quite possible!

JDS to win by KO - 4/11
Struve by submission - 6/4
Barboza to win on points 2/1
Velasquez to win on points 4/1

50/1 accumulator!

What site do you use mate that lets you do individual bets on all the fights?

Sheldan wrote:

p4pnumber_1 wrote:My accumulator for saturday... its unlikely but at the same time quite possible!

JDS to win by KO - 4/11
Struve by submission - 6/4
Barboza to win on points 2/1
Velasquez to win on points 4/1

50/1 accumulator!

What site do you use mate that lets you do individual bets on all the fights?

Paddy Power mate

It's not for all the fights though, just the main card, and then the Barboza fight also.

redmeanie77 wrote:

p4pnumber_1 wrote:My accumulator for saturday... its unlikely but at the same time quite possible!

JDS to win by KO - 4/11
Struve by submission - 6/4
Barboza to win on points 2/1
Velasquez to win on points 4/1

50/1 accumulator!

Not bad, Cain winning by stoppage and Struve getting knocked out is probably only thing stopping you winning a 50/1 bet. Hope you win.

Thanks pal...yeah the only one I cant see happening is Cain, but you never know. Hopefully Cain gets tired of punching Bigfoots huge dome, and just cruises to a decision.

I dont think he'll beat him in a fight..but Frank Mir certainly wins the hotter wife competition ...

Just signed up to Paddy Power and put £45 on Lavar Johnson to KO Stefan Struve and so I have recieved a £45 free bet. Do I bottle it and put the £45 free bet on Struve to submit Johnson so that I'm covered? As lets be honest, this fight is either finishing a Struve submission or a Johnson KO.

Go with Struve by sub, easy money is easy money. No way this goes to a decision.

Worst case scenario I'm £20 up. Best case scenario I'm £50 up and still have a £45 free bet. Hmm... decisions decisions.

Fightmetric ran 10,000 computer simulations of the JDS vs Mir fight and these are the results.

Surely that isn't Dos Santos wife? Is it his mum?

The_Axe_Emperor wrote:Surely that isn't Dos Santos wife? Is it his mum?

Nope its definately his wife! Crazy I know lol, you would think "the baddest man on the planet" would be swimming in babes!

Sheldan wrote:Just signed up to Paddy Power and put £45 on Lavar Johnson to KO Stefan Struve and so I have recieved a £45 free bet. Do I bottle it and put the £45 free bet on Struve to submit Johnson so that I'm covered? As lets be honest, this fight is either finishing a Struve submission or a Johnson KO.

What did you end up doing mate? I personally think it'll be Struve by submission, but known us it'll end in Struve via knockout