Strikeforce vs UFC

I've matched all the Strikeforce fighters against the UFC's fighters in thier same divisions(fairly I think)
How do you think they would fair?

HEAVIES

Fedor vs Brock
Overeem vs Carwin
Werdum vs Big Nog
Rogers vs JDS
Silva vs Cain
Kyle vs Mir
Cormier vs Gonzaga
Hershal vs Kimbo

LHW

Mousasi vs Machida
King Mo vs Shogun
Cavalcante vs Rashad
Lighty vs Forrest
Randelman vs Randy
Babalu vs Lil Nog
Sokodjou vs Chuck
Whitehead vs Tito

MW

Cung Le vs Silva
Sheilds vs Marquardt
Shamrock vs Wandi
Jacare vs Mia
Diaz vs Sexyama
Mayhem vs Palhares
Rockhold vs CB Dollaway
Kennedy vs Belcher
Lawler vs Cote
Lindland vs Sonnen
Cyborg vs Bisping
Radach vs Quarry
Smith vs Leban

WW

Shields vs GSP
Diaz vs Fitch
Zaromskis vs Alves
Hieron vs Swick
Galvao vs Thiago
Riggs vs Koshcheck

LW

Thomson vs Penn
Melendez vs Sanchez
Ishida vs Maynard
Ribeiro vs Florian
Evangelista vs Stevenson
Beerbohm vs Edgar
Gurgel vs Griffin

I'm more than likely being biased but I keep looking at it and can't really see anything but nearly a UFC whitewash.

This is not a put down on Strikeforce as I think they are doing great things,especially if last nights show has anything to go by,it's just that the UFC have had such a long time to grow there rosta and it's so strong all the way through,even loads of fighters that I left out are world class fighters.

HEAVIES

Fedor vs Brock-fedor sub rd 1
Overeem vs Carwin-overeem ud
Werdum vs Big Nog-nog dec
Rogers vs JDS-JDS ko rd 1
Silva vs Cain-cain ud
Kyle vs Mir-mir sub rd 2
Cormier vs Gonzaga-gonzaga tko rd 1
Hershal vs Kimbo-??? dont no hershal but id say he would beat kimbo

LHW

Mousasi vs Machida-mousasi UD
King Mo vs Shogun-shogun ud
Cavalcante vs Rashad-rashad ud
Lighty vs Forrest-forrest ud
Randelman vs Randy-randy ud
Babalu vs Lil Nog-lil nog tko rd 1
Sokodjou vs Chuck-soko tko rd 1
Whitehead vs Tito-tito ud

MW

Cung Le vs Silva-silva ko rd 1
Sheilds vs Marquardt-marquardt tko rd 2
Shamrock vs Wandi-wand ko rd 1
Jacare vs Mia-maia SD
Diaz vs Sexyama-diaz UD
Mayhem vs Palhares-Palhares UD
Rockhold vs CB Dollaway-CB SD
Kennedy vs Belcher- belcher tko rd 2
Lawler vs Cote-Lawler ko rd 1
Lindland vs Sonnen-lindland UD
Cyborg vs Bisping-Bisping SD
Radach vs Quarry-Radach tko rd 1
Smith vs Leban-Smith ko rd 2

WW

Shields vs GSP-GSP tko rd 3
Diaz vs Fitch-fitch UD
Zaromskis vs Alves-Alves ko rd 2
Hieron vs Swick-swick UD
Galvao vs Thiago- galvao UD
Riggs vs Koshcheck-Kos ko rd 1

LW

Thomson vs Penn-Penn
Melendez vs Sanchez-sanchez ud
Ishida vs Maynard-maynard ud
Ribeiro vs Florian-florian tko rd 2
Evangelista vs Stevenson-stevenson SD
Beerbohm vs Edgar-edgar ud
Gurgel vs Griffin-griffin UD

not many winners from strikeforce i think but you would never no alot of them fights could go either way

After last night I'm not so conifedent that Fedor would beat Brock,Brocks as big as Rogers,hits as hard but is 10 times a better Wrestler.Brock has a lifetime of training his ground game whereas Rogers has been only seriously training in Wrestling for the last 18 months and look how he handled himself against Fedor on the ground.

As for Overiods,he's a can crusher and untill he beats a heavyweight of note,outside of Japan where he has to be tested then he has no right to be classed as a top fighter yet.

Paul Buentello is the only half descent Heavy old riods has beaten.

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The thing to remember is this, the UFC puts on TWENTY events EVERY year with a minimum of 12 PPV's. Strikeforce host about 5-7 events every year.

UFC have a bigger roster and with more money from all the PPV's they can afford to have more stars.

Come back in a year when the Strikeforce/Dream partnership is in full effect and the landscape will be different.

I agree with Anfield. I reckon they will do alright. They already have a media platform and if they continue to produce entertaining fights like those we just saw then I can't see why they shouldn't be successful.

It will provide a refreshing alternative for fighters from the UFC. It's a shame Dana White and Zuffa don't have more of an open mind when it comes to advancing the sport of MMA but I guess I understand their position and the business reasons around it.

Its reassuring to know that when a fighter gets cut from, for example, UFC, they have a place to go to afterwards. If UFC continue to cock up deals like with Henderson, Strikeforce will be the first place they go, and if they can gather a roster to challenge UFC (which I feel they are very near to doing) then I wouldn't be surprised if they are seriously challenging UFC in a few years time. The addition of the likes of Henderson (is he 100% there now???), Zaromskis and the influx of Dream fighters showed what a high caliber of talent they can attract.

Unfortunately, we have to look at money, and the vast marketing budget of the UFC, plus TUF, which bring attention away from Strikeforce, despite the high quality fighters. That could ultimately be their downfall.

Lawler vs Cote-Lawler ko rd 1

Seriously? Cote has one of the toughest chins in MMA, even more so than Hendo! He would KO Lawler who has always been overated.

Hershal vs Kimbo-??? dont no hershal but id say he would beat kimbo

Hershal is that 47 year old former American footballer, looks pretty shit. Even Kimbo can beat him.

Hieron vs Swick-swick UD

Not sure, if it went to a decision I think Heiron would take it. If Swick was to win this he would have to finish early.

List of other UFC fighters better than Kimbo:

Duffee
Pat Barry
Ben Rothwell
Struve
Kongo
Hardonk
Roy Nelson
Crocop
Couture
Chase Gormley
Mike Russow
Heath Herring
Tim Hague


Thats just off the top my head, the point being here is Strenght in depth of UFC HW roster.



Point number 2 being Kimbo sucks

Haha well said.. Kimbo is a bit of a Joke, Houston is going to take his head off his shoulders, Look what Houston did to Jardine.. by comparison whats Kimbos good performance? What made people so impressed with him??

I think its maby the fat guy im Micky D's carpark!

Strikeforce have better HWs than Walker as well, I think the poster did it as a freak show fight. Niether are what you call top fighters.

The Kimbo vs Hershal was just matching up the two 'purely for ratings fighters' who have no business fighting at any of the big shows yet.

Kimbo is one of the biggest draws in all of MMA so whether he's good enough or not is irrelevant. Kimbo is big business.

You can't fault either company for signing either Kimbo or Hershal,both companys are going to make a killing off them in the short time they can,the ratings for TUF already show us how marketable Kimbo is.
Also despite losing,his age and his blatant lack of skills on the show,his personality seems to have won over alot of fans,me included.
There are probably hundreds of fighters out there that if you are judging on skills should be ahead Kimbo in signing a UFC contract but none of them could sell out a big venue like Kimbo can.
Hershal Walker is a Legend in the US and I'd be really interested in what the viewing figures will be.I'd assume that most NFL fans will be tuning in to see him fight.

Would you say Lashley would be a big draw for strikeforce?

I think he will. I think he's a great signing. He'll need to be build slowly but i think he's got the potential to be as good as Lesnar.

Yeah without a doubt,you bring in any top athelete who origanly made a big name for themselves in a differant sport,and being the size he is and the fact he has a good wrestling background, he naturally brings along alot of interest from MMA fans and he will bring alot of his original following also.

I think they should sign Bob Sapp. And then let him fight Cris Cyborg Santos! I bet she'd make him cry!

I just saw the CBS viewing figures for the Strikeforce show,3.79 million.

Do you know what is really sad about that and how ignorant alot of US fans are about anything outside of America.Kimbo fought James Thompson on CBS and 4.3 million tuned in to see that and 5.3 million watch TUF which peaked at 6.1 million.

With M1 surely taking there inflated slice of the pie,the American audience not showing great a interest in anything outside the UFC and the economy being the way it is,as stupid as it sounds not being able to make a fortune of the best fighter on the planet,Fedor could turn out to be a financial problem for Strikeforce.

"The return of MMA to the CBS airwaves netted the network 5.46 million viewers for the Strikeforce/M-1 Global main event between Fedor Emelianenko and Brett Rogers, official today announced"

Thats pretty good numbers!

I think with them having big TV deals etc.. and a great roster of fighters they wont go the way of affliction

They must have peaked during the Fedor fight,which hopefully means I'm wrong about the majority of US fans.http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/11/08/tv-ratings-saturday-strikeforce-fedor-vs-rogers-averages-3-79-million-in-prime-time-on-cbs/32941

Lashley is 100% signed then? What happened to the Waterman fight? Maby for the December event? I know building him up slow might be a good Idea but Im sick of seeing him against C class opposition, Bigfoot took a loss why not fight him? Sefo just won what about him? Taking the Scalp of a K-1 Legend would be a good start and Sefo has 0 groundgame. (Though youd pray Sefo KO'd him!) There must be a few good fights to put him in to. The Waterman fight doesnt interest me in the slightest... Is Waterman a Step down from Sapp?

I think Rogers would be a great fight but he is probabally a step too far for him, What about a fight with Arlovski then? I think a lot of fighers would fancy there chances agaisnt him now and it would be a really big fight, it would do a lot of PPV's.