MMA Predictions League - Round 4

G'day everyone. Good to be back after a short break.

Round 4 is covering the MFC, which has a few UFC cast offs fighting in their latest event and The Ultimate Fighter Finale. Also, for something a little different, I have added the K-1 World GP tournament.

I have only put the fights that have been confirmed so far on the UFC TUF card. I can't really be arsed updating it either unless there is an uproar and everyone wants me to add the fights as they are confirmed.

For the K-1 GP only pick a winning fighter and method ie. stoppage or decision so there will be 15 points per fight. If you pick the correct winner of the tournament (fight no. 13) you will get 10 bonus points.

The first fight should be a grappling clinic, the last fight a stand up brawl, let's have your picks.....

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo

I suppose Ill hold fire on the predictions till we see who is in TUF finale.

I suppose Ill hold fire on the predictions till we see who is in TUF finale


I wasn't going to add the remaining finale fights unless people want them

If I need to change my picks, should I just edit my post?

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites- Leites UD
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson- McDonald by sub round 1
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker- I don't either of these two but Barker by TKO round 3
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton- Jimmo by UD
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman- Eastman by UD
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez- Christopher by sub round 2


5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari- Hari by TKO
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira-Overoid by TKO
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt- Le Banner by UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky-Bonjasky by TKO
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 (Hari vs Overoid) Hari by TKO
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 (Banner vs Bonjasky) Bonjasky by UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 (Bonjasky vs Hari) Hari by TKO


5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones- Jones by UD
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach- Edgar by UD
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace- Stann by TKO round 2
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman- Howard UD
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer- Bocek by sub round 2
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo- Alexander by TKO round 2

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites-Leites UD
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson-MacDonald sub rd 2
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker-Baker UD
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton-Jimmo SD
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman-Eastman UD
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez-christopher sub rd 3

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari-Hari UD
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira-overeem UD
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt-JLB ko rd 3 we can hope
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky-Bonjasky UD
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8-Hari UD extra round
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10-Bonjasky UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12-Hari tko rd 3

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones-Jones tko rd 2
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach- Edgar UD
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace-Stann ko rd 1
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman- HAllman UD
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer-Bocek sub rd 2
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo-Kimbo ko rd 2

can i join in, or is it too late as it's round 4?

I joined in pretty late as well, it should be fine but best to double check with Ginginho

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites ................. Leites, sub Rd 1
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson ......... Mcdonald TKO Rd 1
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker ................... Santore Sub Rd 2
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton ................. Newton Sub Rd 2
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman ............... Eastmam TKO Rd 3
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez .............. Juarez KO Rd 2

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari ................... Hari KO Rd 2
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira ......... Overeem KO Rd 2
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt ............. Schilt Unaminous decision
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky ............ Bonjasky TKO Rd 3
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 ...... Overeem KO Rd 1
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 ..... Schilt Split decision
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 .... Schilt Unaminous decision

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones ................... Hammill Unaminous Decision
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach ................... Edgar KO Rd 1
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace ............... Wallace KO Rd 1
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman ............... Hallman Split Decision
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer ................... Brammer Unamimous Decision
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo .................. Alexander KO Rd 1

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites ................. Lister, sub Rd decision
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson ......... Mcdonald TKO Rd 1
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker ................... Baker decision
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton - Newton TKO rd 2
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman - Lewis decision
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez - Christopher sub rd 2

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari ................... Hari KO Rd 1
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira ......... Overeem KO Rd 2
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt ............. Schilt Unaminous decision
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky ............ Bonjasky UD
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 ...... Overeem UD
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 ..... Bonjasky Split decision
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 .... Overoid Unaminous decision

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones - Hamill TKO rd 2
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach - Edgar KO rd 1
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace - Stann Decision
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman - Howard TKO rd 2
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer - Bocek sub rd 1
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo .................. Alexander KO Rd 1

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites,Leites UD
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson,McDonald 2nd Rd sub
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker,Baker 2nd rd Stoppage
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton,Jimmo UD
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman,Lewis 1st rd stoppage
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez,Christopher 1st rd Sub

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari,Hari 1st rd stoppage
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira,Overeem UD
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt,Schilt UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky,Bonjasky 3rd rd stoppage
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8,Hari 2nd rd stoppage
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10,Bonjasky UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12,Bonjasky UD

Im going for a revenge night,Hari to get Overeem back and Bonjasky finally getting the better of Schilts,setting up an 08 final rematch.

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones,Jones UD
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach,Edgar UD
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace,Stann 1st rd stoppage
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman,Howard UD

If Hallman wins does this set up a Hughes rematch?

18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer,Bocek 1st rd sub
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo,Alexander 1st rd stoppage

Payne u get more points if you say what kind of stoppage in mma matches. eg.KO or Tko etc


You have no idea how hard it was for me to say that considering your top of the table

alex6674, feel free to join in - I will find some way to give you some points so you aren't too disadvantaged by your late start.

ChelseaQuins, you can edit your picks up until the first fight listed starts.

Bulldog67, are you aware you haven't completed your picks?

Is everyone happy with the card as it stands or shall I add the final TUF fights when they are confirmed? Sorry but I haven't been following TUF as we don't get it in NZ so don't really care too much about it.

Also, I try to get the round up as early as possible so people are aware and have time to make their choices. How long before the fights start should I be posting a round to ensure everyone is able to reply with their picks?

Anyways, 3 days to go - get your picks in now - I have started buying cheap MMA gear to try to get a prize pack together for the leader after some as yet unknown time period so it may be worth your while keeping up with your picks.

Remember this is your game so any improvements or rule changes or anything you want to see, let me know and I will look at incorporating them.

yeah cheers BUd, had just run out of time, so went for the 100% bankers first off

redmeanie77 wrote:Payne u get more points if you say what kind of stoppage in mma matches. eg.KO or Tko etc


You have no idea how hard it was for me to say that considering your top of the table

I thought TKO,KO,ect are all scored the same,so if you say KO and its a TKO you still get the points,thats why I just put down stoppage.
The only one you have to say what type is for a decision,UD,MD,SD.

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites - Leites Sub rd2
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson - Mcdonald Sub rd2
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker- Baker UD
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton - newton TKO Rd3
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman - Eastman UD
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez - Christopher UD

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari- hari TKO rd2
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira - Overeem TKO rd2
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt- Shilt UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky - Bonjasky tko rd1
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 - Hari UD
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 - Bonjanski UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 - Hari UD

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones - Jones TKO rd2
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach - Edgar TKO rd2
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace - Stann UD
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman - Hallman TKo rd3
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer - Brammer sub rd3
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo - Alexander KO rd 1

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites - Leites R2 sub
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson - McDonald R2 sub
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker - Baker R2 stoppage
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton - Jimmo UD
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman - Eastman UD
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez - Christopher UD

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari - Hari R1 stoppage
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira - Overeem UD
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt - Schilt UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky - Bonjasky R2 stoppage
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 - Hari UD
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 - Bonjasky UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 - Bonjasky UD

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones - Jones UD
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach - Edgar UD
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace - Wallace R2 sub
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman - Hallman R1 sub
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer - Brammer UD
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo - Alexander R1 stoppage
If it gets added...
20. Justin Wren vs Jon Madsen - Wren R1 stoppage

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites - Leites by UD
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson - McDonald R2 sub
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker - Baker UD
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton - Newton R2 KO
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman - Eastman R3 TKO
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez - Juarez UD

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari - Hari R2 TKO
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira - Overeem UD
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt - Schilt UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky - Bonjasky R2 stoppage
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 - Hari UD
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 - Bonjasky UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 - Bonjasky UD

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones - Jones R3 KO
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach - Edgar R3 TKO
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace - Wallace UD
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman - Hallman R2 sub
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer - Brammer UD
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo - Kimbo by R1 submission(just a feeling)

Anfields5thKing wrote:19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo - Kimbo by R1 submission(just a feeling)

Brave call Anfield.

Both of them suck on the ground, but Kimbo is slightly better and has been working at American Top Team where he's been spending a lot of time work on his ground game. From what i've heard from ATT, Kimbo's been improving greatly on the ground but he's been knocked on his ass a couple of times in sparring by Thiago Silva who's been working with him a bit as they are in camp together and Kimbo is passing on bits of info he picked up from watching Rashad train(apparently Rashad was training pretty much the whole way through TUF because he expected to fight Rampage after the show).

Neither of them have great chins but Kimbo's is weaker.

So i just think that better ground game, plus weaker chin, plus American Top Team, equals Kimbo taking Alexander down and tapping him.

So i just think that better ground game, plus weaker chin, plus American Top Team, equals Kimbo taking Alexander down and tapping him.

Good logic there but we don't know how much he actually has improved and if he can take Alexander down without getting a punch in the face.

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister UD
2. Jason McDonald submission 2
3. Bryan Baker stoppage 3
4. Ryan Jimmo UD
5. Dwayne Lewis TKO 1
6. Jesse Juarez KO 2

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Badr Hari KO right cross round 1
8. Ewerton Teixeira going for the upset split decision
9. Semmy Schilt UD
10. Remy Bonjasky TKO 2
11. Badr Hari UD
12. Remy Bonjasky UD
13. Remy Bonjasky UD Just all guesses on this event

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Jon Jones UD although I hope he finishes it early
15. Frank Edgar UD
16. Brian Stann KO 2
17. Dennis Hallman submission 3
18. Mark Bocek sub 2
19. Houston Alexander ko knees 1

4/12 MFC 23: Unstoppable
1. Dean Lister vs Thales Leites - Leites Sub R2
2. Jason McDonald vs Solomon Hutcherson - McDonald R2 sub
3. Art Santore vs Bryan Baker - Baker RD 2 TKO
4. Ryan Jimmo vs Emanuel Newton - Jimmo UD
5. Dwayne Lewis vs Marvin Eastman - Eastman UD
6. Joe Christopher vs Jesse Juarez - Juarez UD

5/12 K-1 World Grand Prix 2009
7. Ruslan Karaev vs Badr Hari - Hari R2 Stoppage
8. Alastair Overeem vs Ewerton Teixeira - Overeem RD stoppage
9. Jerome Le Banner vs Semmy Schilt - Schilt UD
10. Errol Zimmerman vs Remy Bonjasky - Bonjasky R2 stoppage
11. Winner of Fight 7 vs Winner of Fight 8 - Hari UD
12. Winner of Fight 9 vs Winner of Fight 10 - Bonjasky UD
13. Winner of Fight 11 vs Winner of Fight 12 - Bonjasky UD

5/12 UFC: The Ultimate Fight Finale
14. Matt Hammill vs Jon Jones - Jones UD
15. Frank Edgar vs Matt Veach - Edgar R3 TKO
16. Brian Stann vs Rodney Wallace - Wallace UD
17. John Howard vs Dennis Hallman - Hallman R2 sub
18. Mark Bocek vs Joe Brammer - Brammer UD
19. Houston Alexander vs Kimbo - Houston tko rd 1

Middleweight bout: Thales Leites vs. Dean Lister[2]
Middleweight bout: Jason MacDonald vs. Solomon Hutcherson[2]
Light Heavyweight bout: Emanuel Newton vs. Marvin Eastman[4]
Welterweight bout: Jesse Juarez vs. Joe Christopher[4]
Heavyweight bout: Nick Penner vs. Ryan Fortin[4]
Middleweight bout: Bryan Barker vs. Art Santore[5]
Welterweight bout: Ryan Machan vs. Kajan Johnson[5]



Wiki has these fights on for MFC 23????? Is that a mistake or what ?

I'm not sure - I only chose 6 fights from that card so there will be another couple that haven't been listed in the league. I have confirmed the card on their official site and on a couple of other MMA websites.

ChelseaQuinsfan wrote:

So i just think that better ground game, plus weaker chin, plus American Top Team, equals Kimbo taking Alexander down and tapping him.

Good logic there but we don't know how much he actually has improved and if he can take Alexander down without getting a punch in the face.

He could also submit to strikes, which would be more likely....