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    TUF 17 (I think)

    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:18 pm

    Anybody been watching this ?, To be honest this season has been excellent so far the fights have been great both coaches have come across well especially Sonnen. It seems they have ditched the whole Man Drama format and actually concentrated on the fact they are genuine top level athletes (Gasp !).

    Last nights fights were brilliant this has been easily the best TUF for a long time It's certainly worth catching up with.
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    Post  Ginginho on Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:23 pm

    Totally agree - Sonnen has surprised me in that he hasn't trolled JBJ as much as I thought he would. But most of the fights have been pretty good and of course there is a kiwi for me to support

    C'mon the Villain!!!
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    Post  Once Mohawked Pete on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:09 am

    I've been enjoying it thoroughly. Far better now that the focus is on training and fights. Never used to find the whole 'drama in the house' thing that appealing. They seem to have a fairly well balanced bunch this time, although (and no spoilers here, just in case), found the 2nd of the two fights this week, really frustrating. Couple of future stars on this series as well methinks.
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:28 am

    I agree on the 2nd fight.
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    For someone with such a size advantage that Luke doesn't use It very well been very surprised how well Dylan has looked he's certainly got a bright future.

    Gastelum has looked sensational as well his finish of Colin Hart was very impressive



    IMO this has been the most talented cast since TUF with BJ & Jens as the coaches.

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    Post  payneNglory1 on Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:06 pm

    It has been a great series,good fights,good training and good banter without the silly in house bullshit.

    Sonnen and Jones are doing a good job coaching and the talent of the fighters this season is higher than it's been for a long time.

    What's not to like about this season.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:20 pm

    Sonnen comes across brilliantly. Great coach as well but that's only natural considering the camp he comes from.

    Jones comes across as expected, no personality, little idea about coaching and overly cocky about his fighters.

    I'm expecting an all-Sonnen final.

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    Post  kavik2 on Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:28 pm

    Once Mohawked Pete wrote:I've been enjoying it thoroughly. Far better now that the focus is on training and fights. Never used to find the whole 'drama in the house' thing that appealing. They seem to have a fairly well balanced bunch this time, although (and no spoilers here, just in case), found the 2nd of the two fights this week, really frustrating. Couple of future stars on this series as well methinks.

    Luke's stand up looks really poor - he has the reach but everyone seemed happy enough to walk through his punches they just seemed to be thrown as a distraction and not too cause any damage - I was frustrated with the way he went out and in the interview after he was saying hopefully I will get a good fight at the event and I can make a big impression
    (it sounded very much like he was happy to avoid the final, and can instead impress against a lesser fighter and then get in the UFC that way)
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    Post  Once Mohawked Pete on Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:56 pm

    Yeah Kavik, was completely underwhelmed by the Brit. His stand up was poor and his TDD almost non existent, but for me, it was the complete lack of heart, it was almost as if, he didn't want to be there.
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    Post  Ginginho on Wed Apr 03, 2013 10:08 pm

    Do you think Dana will end up with the finale he wants? I can't really see any other conclusion TBH...
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    Post  payneNglory1 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:15 pm

    you'd have to think so,Dana had to do it that way,it would of been a waste for me to have that as a semi fight and not a potential finale match up.

    Also,I'm a proud dad at the moment,my boy came 2nd in a NC state wrestling tournament cheers

    In his four matches,he went 3-1,pinning all 3 in his wins,including a lad that beat him a couple of months ago,He got pinned by the eventual winner in the 3rd rd.

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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:17 pm

    Congrats Payne on your lads success I still can't they have removed Wrestling from the Olympics.....Still.....Forest will remain in The Championship next season though. Laughing

    Back on to TUF I really hope KG knocks Samman out the way he has ducked Hall and campaigned for easy fights has been aggravating to watch I do think we will see a KG Hall Final.
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    Post  payneNglory1 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:15 pm

    Thanks

    Lets hope you'll be there too Wink

    I'll just be happy if we can just stay in the play off places,then who knows.
    Lets put it this way,i'd never imagined us at having a chance,8 games ago.Very Happy

    Hall's a beast,but Sammon,even though I agree,he's been annoying campaigning for the easier fights from the start,doe's look like the clear 2nd best fighter on the show.

    Even better,now he lost again,I won a 6 pack off my mate,who stupidly bet me that Bubba would win the whole show Laughing
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    Post  Ginginho on Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:42 am

    Congrats on your boys success - future MMA star if the Olympics don't readmit wrestling??

    The funniest thing about Bubba was how proud he was at breaking the will of Kevin Casey and then gets all chicken when he has to fight Hall!!!

    I don't like Sammon at all but he is a pretty good fighter and yeah, Dana had to do it that way to give that finale a chance BUT it would be great to see upsets in the semis.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Fri Apr 05, 2013 7:26 am

    Congrats on your kid doing so well Payne. Remind him that even though wrestling has been removed from the Olympics, Judo is still a key Olympic sport and a far more disciplined and rewarding sport!! And if he has any doubts just show him a picture of Ronda and tell him that there's plenty of girls like her getting into the sport now. No good looking female wrestlers!

    Uriah Hall is a terrifying man. He finishes people. There's no messing about with him, no talk of "was it a premature stoppage" and no tapping to strikes which I find a bit embarrassing, he puts people to sleep and has them asking what happened when they wake up. Bubba was fucked up, as was that kid he KO'd in the last round. The Kiwi is going to sleep, then Sammon is going to get his ass kicked.

    Sammon should beat Kelvin, who i think needs to go to 170 anyway.

    Dana picked the right semi's IMO. I'd have preferred to have had an all-Sonnen final which I think there would have been in it had been Uriah-Sammon in the semi's, but this way the two best fighters should meet in the final.

    Just on the topic of Forrest, Billy Davies has done a ridiculously good job.
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    Post  payneNglory1 on Fri Apr 05, 2013 5:47 pm

    I've been looking at some Judo and jiujitsu clubs for them,I'd love them to give it a go.
    The boy absolutely loves his wrestling,plus he's got a couple of cute girls in his class that i wind him up about,but I wouldn't mind both my son and daughter dropping karate,and finding a more competitive,physical thing to do,be it a team sport or individual,but they both like it and have been there 5 + years,so I have to but out.
    Also where we live,good clubs are expensive and everything is so far away,Greensboro,Raleigh,Durham are all 45+ miles away.

    So proud of Billy and the boys,hopefully we'll sneak up this year but if not,we should give autos a good run next season.


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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:41 am

    So, Josh gets choked out by Kelvin and Dylan gets his ass kicked by Uriah and I get my all-Sonnen final! Rightly so. Sonnen was the far better coach whereas Jones was awkward, unknowing and downright stupid. His advice to Bubba against Uriah was "go forward and pressure". Bubba got knocked the fuck out. Then Dylan, nowhere near the striker Bubba is, fights Uriah and his advice is "go forward and pressure". What an idiot. And that speech before the Dylan-Uriah fight was embarrassing.

    Sonnen won in bowling, the coaches challenge and by getting his two fighters to the finale.

    4 more for the bad guys.

    Uriah's going to wreck Kelvin in the finale.
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    Post  Mryzyz on Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:25 pm

    A big hole in Uriah's game was exposed by Gastellum. Unless he greatly improves his wrestling defense, he is going to struggle against a lot of guys.

    I actually still thought he should have been given the decision (he won the last round by virtue of damage). But against say, Yushin Okami, he would just get smothered.
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    Post  Once Mohawked Pete on Sun Apr 14, 2013 8:38 pm

    I was hoping, that he would have worked on that area of his game, as I think that this was exposed a bit in the semis. No getting away from Gastelum's performance though, last pick, and never a favourite in any fight. Worthy winner (I personally had it 29-28 Gastelum), and only 21!!!
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:58 pm

    It's pretty obvious Hall has a lot of self doubt issues he just didn't seem comfortable against KG who's constant aggression and pressure won him the fight as Hall seem to struggle. Maybe It was the occasion and the fact he was an overwhelming favorite in the fight to me I feel he choked not taking anything away from KG though I thought he sealed the decision with that last minute take down.

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