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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  Sheldan on Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:54 am

    I agree with Payne that we needed the other rankings. Like he said, the numbers we had worn't really enough to work out an average, so unless other posters want to contribute and the numbers reaching around 7 or 8 I think we should use them. As for the fighter getting the other persons points though, I think it would be far too complicated. Say there was a guy ranked around 19th or something about 10 points, and he beats the #3 or #4 ranked guy who is on 160 points, and the #1 ranked guy has 169 points, then that system means that that guy would go to #1 !!! I think we should just submit rankings monthly, that way it allows for all the major events to take place, for instance, I imagine that after the next 2 cards which features 6 of the top 15 (if you include Rogers) all of our HW rankings will be dramatically different. Obviously i'm guessing it will take a while to get things up and running this way as there are 7 weight divisions to take in to account. But like you said, this is Ben's rankings and it is up to him whether or not he wants to pursue this idea.
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:57 pm

    1 Velasquez
    2 JDS
    3 Werdum
    4 Overeem
    5 Bigfoot
    6 Fedor
    7 Lesnar
    8 Carwin
    9 Mir
    10 Big Nog
    11 Barnett
    12 Sergei
    13 Schaub
    14 Browne
    15 Konrad
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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:05 pm

    1. Jones
    2. Evans
    3. Henderson
    4. Shogun
    5. Rampage
    6. Machida
    7. Forrest
    8. Belfort
    9. Davis
    10. Mousasi
    11. Feijao
    12. Franklin
    13. King Mo
    14. Bader
    15. Lil Nog
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  redmeanie77 on Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:10 pm











    If JDS and Overroid both win and Barnet ....

    1. JDS
    2. Cain
    3. Overeem
    4. Werdum
    5. Bigfoot
    6. Lesnar
    7. Fedor
    8. Mir
    9. Carwin
    10. Barnett
    11. Big Nog
    12. Schaub
    13. Sergei
    14. Browne
    15. Konrad
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  manschesthair_utd on Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:37 pm

    no idea where to post this but just so people know...

    Minowaman won a decision over Carlos Toyota at Heat 18 in Japan on sunday. Smile
    http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Carlos-Toyota-20016

    does this make minowa top 10 LHW again?
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    Post  rudeboyben84 on Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:45 pm

    cheers

    Nice one, so glad to see Minowa winning again! Id been checking when he was fighting next and Id no Idea about this fight!! Great news, Id love to see him at 185 in SF. I reckon he would make for a very entertaining fight with Lawler.

    Alternativley if he isnt going to Zuffa he should go after Mamed Khalidov... Either way hope he cuts to 185 because 205 hasnt been a great weight for him historically.
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    Payne I love that rankings Idea but some of the sites you listed havnt updated their rankings since Nelson lost. When they do id be happy to use your system but there isnt a reasonable case for Nelson to still be top 15.

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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  2brutal on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:12 am

    Found it
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    Post  superman_punch on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:15 am

    2brutal wrote:Found it

    We're not computer literate me and you broots. At least I have a profile picture tho

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    Post  2brutal on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:25 am

    It was only about 10 posts down we are bad,

    If anyone know how I get a picture on let me know ta
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    Post  rudeboyben84 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:33 am

    I had done a propper sticky one and it got deleted... Ill have another crack at it this week if you lads will all give me a bit of feedback, cant wait to hear peoples take on the Hw's now...

    If you got to Profile at the top in the green bar theres an option there.... let me know if you are stuck.

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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  2brutal on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:36 am

    Ta Ben I'll have a bash 2 moz

    Reem better not go to number 1 Ben off the back off that I'm sure you was saying same as me 3/4 at best push Barnett a bit but remember Rogers isn't great

    Ps Cain will beat jds and winner of gp too good wait and see
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    Post  rudeboyben84 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:44 am

    Was thinking Reem 3rd Werdum 4th off the top of my head, he is my favorite heavy and I wouldnt put him 1st.

    Cain vs JDS winner will be top I think they really are neck and neck but Im backing Junior to win via KO.

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    Post  2brutal on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:53 am

    What is a URL and how do I find them I have got a picture but only from the gallery link ?

    Cain will win no doubt,

    Reem is quality big fan just not number 1 not yet at least
    Number 3 sounds good
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  rudeboyben84 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:25 am

    Thinking the rankings should look like this now, take your pick JDS or Cain but for their Crowning achievments I think Knocking Werdum senceless was better than Knocking Lesnar senceless. Werdum took an Uberknee to the Chin. Tough guy. So Junior top for me because his 7 fight streak had slightly tougher opposition. Belts shouldnt mean a thing in rankings, do we start rewarding the BAMMA champs too?

    Barnett up to 9th, Carwins only good career win is Mir and he is on a 2 figth slump. Love watching him throw leather and his "Rocky Moment" but dont rate him over Barnett. I think its tight with Mir though logic tells me Mir sparked Crocop and Nog who were last beat him in Pride when he was at top level then. In his recent 7 fight run he has beat 3 top 20ish guys where Mir is only on 2 top 20ish guys run... Ill leave it to the majority because Im a bit of a Barnett fan!

    Monson off 15th for Cormier.

    1. JDS
    2. Cain
    3. Overeem
    4. Werdum
    5. Bigfoot
    6. Lesnar
    7. Fedor
    8. Mir
    9. Barnett
    10. Carwin
    11. Nog
    12. Sergei
    13. Scahaub
    14. Russow
    15. Cormier

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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  rudeboyben84 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 2:41 am

    Just an Idea but I was thinking about Lesnars relevance, he hast had a win in a year and he hasnt had a GOOD win in 2 years.

    Before his Good win he was 3-1 having wins over the guys 11th ranked Nog beat... a couple of guys who retired a few fights later! Laughing

    Its hard to know what to do with him rankings wise because we dont know how long he will be out. what do you all reckon about him?
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  Ginginho on Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:09 am

    rudeboyben84 wrote:Just an Idea but I was thinking about Lesnars relevance, he hast had a win in a year and he hasnt had a GOOD win in 2 years.

    Before his Good win he was 3-1 having wins over the guys 11th ranked Nog beat... a couple of guys who retired a few fights later! Laughing

    Its hard to know what to do with him rankings wise because we dont know how long he will be out. what do you all reckon about him?


    I was thinking that dropping him out of the top 15 would save having to consider him when everyone else fights. He hasn't fought for more than 6 months, is unlikely to fight for another 6 months (if at all) and doesn't have the history behind him to justify staying so high after inactivity. We all know he will get a decent fight if/when he returns so we can re-rank him after that....

    My HW top 10, for what it's worth, would be......

    1. Cain
    2. JDS
    3. Overeem
    4. Werdum
    5. Silva
    6. Fedor
    7. Mir
    8. Barnett
    9. Carwin
    10. Nog
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  rudeboyben84 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:23 am

    Cheere Ging, I think Cain/JDS are pretty enterchangable but think if Lesnar was out our lists would be the same. I think cutting Lesnar is fair enough because Barnett took a big drop with Inactivity before.

    Speaking of inactive where the fuck is Pedro Rizzo? Id love SF to line him up as the next fight for Griggs since the Tournament doesnt really need 2 alternates.
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    Post  Anfields5thKing on Mon Jun 20, 2011 3:35 am

    Yeah Lesnar out. And if not out, certainly below Fedor.

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    Post  2brutal on Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:57 am

    Lesnar out but if he comes back and has a good win take that into account with his rankings sounds fiar
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:19 pm

    Schaubb should be Top 10 maybe Top 5 after all he has beat Cro Cop, Gonzaga & Tuchscherer he is the future of MMA..........

































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    Post  p4pnumber_1 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:38 pm

    Ginginho wrote:
    rudeboyben84 wrote:Just an Idea but I was thinking about Lesnars relevance, he hast had a win in a year and he hasnt had a GOOD win in 2 years.

    Before his Good win he was 3-1 having wins over the guys 11th ranked Nog beat... a couple of guys who retired a few fights later! Laughing

    Its hard to know what to do with him rankings wise because we dont know how long he will be out. what do you all reckon about him?


    I was thinking that dropping him out of the top 15 would save having to consider him when everyone else fights. He hasn't fought for more than 6 months, is unlikely to fight for another 6 months (if at all) and doesn't have the history behind him to justify staying so high after inactivity. We all know he will get a decent fight if/when he returns so we can re-rank him after that....

    My HW top 10, for what it's worth, would be......

    1. Cain
    2. JDS
    3. Overeem
    4. Werdum
    5. Silva
    6. Fedor
    7. Mir
    8. Barnett
    9. Carwin
    10. Nog

    Completely agree with both what you said and the rankings
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  redmeanie77 on Mon Jun 20, 2011 4:37 pm














    Brock was no.1 here before Cain fight, and is a former champ. And you now want him outside top 15???
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  manschesthair_utd on Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:07 pm

    redmeanie77 wrote:












    Brock was no.1 here before Cain fight, and is a former champ. And you now want him outside top 15???

    No he was not. Werdum was.
    Fedor was still above Brock too i think.
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    Re: New MMA Rankings with ranking System included

    Post  Sheldan on Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:57 pm

    Brock shouldn't be dropped from top 15, the fact it is being considered is based on only people's opinion of him, Sonnen hasn't fought for nearly 12 months and doesn't look to be fighting anytime soon, yet he remains at number 2 in the MW rankings. If you're insisting on having one rule for one fighter it has to apply to every fighter, instead of being based on your opinion of the fighter, like this clearly is being based on.
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    Post  Cowboys From Hell on Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:21 pm

    I don't care for Brock but I do think he is still Top 15 at least but If he doesn't fight again this year then there is no reason for him to be Ranked.

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